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George Alfred Carey was born in 1874 in St Giles,or St Pancras, London.
He marries Francis (fanny) M Paul in 1897 Hamstead, London.
In the English 1901 census Rg13 piece number 183 folio 78 page number 27 George is age 26 Frances is 24 George age 1 Herbert age 2 these are the wrong ages for the children George Henry Carey was born in 1898 and Herbert Frederick was born in 1900.
I cannot find George or Francis in the 1911 census.
I found a death for a George Alfred Carey in 1907 Edmonton London but I'm not sure if this is the correct person.
I found several family trees on Ancestry listing Herbert and showing that he had immagrated to America and Canada, and his brother George Henry is shown with him entering America in the 1920s.
Herbert Frederick Carey marries Mary Martha Roffey on the 2/4/1923 York, Ontario, Canada Mary is a widow I believe her married surname may have been Douglas two of the witnesses were Philip and Ethel Carey these two along with a Edith Violet Carey and a Theresa Carey are listed as siblings of George and Herbert on a Smalley family tree on Ancestry I cannot find births for any of the four younger children in England.
My question is could anyone tell me if the parents George Alfred Carey and his wife Francis also emigrated to Canada or America.
Buzz
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Philips birth reg
CAREY, PHILLIP mmn PAUL
1902 March Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 320
familysearch has this possibility for him
Philip Carey
Census 1911
Stanwell, Hatton Bedfont, Middlesex
Age 9
Occupation SCHOOL BOY
Relationship to Head of Household INMATE
also a possibility for Herbert 1900 same place.
I think it is very likely that the Edmonton death is your George. ???
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Could this be Frances - the area is the same as that death
From familysearch
Frances Cary
Census 1911
Edmonton, Lower Edmonton, Middlesex
Age 34
Marital Status WIDOWER
Birthplace Ish Town Nw, Kent
Relationship to Head of Household RELATIVE
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There is an Ocean Arrivals form for Mrs Frances Carey aged 44 , widow, arriving Quebec 31 Aug 1921, next of kin mother Mrs Paul of Kentish Town , London. Destination relations Mr & Mrs Brunsdon ( ?), sister & brother in law 159 Bleaker Steet Toronto.
Advise you to check the 1911 census given by rosie99 for other relevant names.
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I wonder if these are more children :-\
CAREY, ETHEL LILY mmn PAUL
1904 Dec Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 796
CAREY, FRANCES EDITH mmn PAUL
1906 Dec Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 602
Just noticed you do mention Ethel & Edith :)
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Family Search has an Ohio county marriage 21 jan 1926 of Ethel Carey - parents Geo A Carey and Frances Paul to a Rupert B Amo.
:)
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Also from Family search:
Michigan Marriage-
George H Carey to Kathleen Alexander
3/5/1924
Father Geo A
Mother Frances Paul
Father - george . Mother - Anna Pottinger
I'm just giving you the briefest of info...i figure you'd like to see the image for yourself on Family search!
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Umm..sorry - maybe getting a little carried away with your peeps!
so if you look for george h carey in 1930 census you will find him with his wife(Kathleen) who was also born in England, 3 kids and it says he immigrated in 1922...
You can also find the family in 1940 census with 5 kids
Ethel Amo, husband and a child together in 1930 census. It states she immigrated in 1923.
Ethel Amo is a patient in a sanitorium in 1940
And a death record 25 sept 1942 - parents george alfred carey and frances paul.(also gives her birth date and place!)
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There is an Ocean Arrivals form for Mrs Frances Carey aged 44 , widow, arriving Quebec 31 Aug 1921, next of kin mother Mrs Paul of Kentish Town , London. Destination relations Mr & Mrs Brunsdon ( ?), sister & brother in law 159 Bleaker Steet Toronto.
The corresponding ship passenger list shows that 16 yo Ethel was travelling with her. The ship was the Empress of France, and it departed 25 Aug 1921 from Liverpool. Their last address in the UK was 61 Baltham Road, Lower Edmonton, London.
rosie99 posted a possible 1911 census for widow Frances, a relative.
The 1911 census asks how many years each married woman on the schedule has been married, followed by how many children. Generally, only the head and wife filled it out, but Removed. Just another little hint that the George that died in 1907 is a good fit, as they would have been married ten years when he died.
Moderator comment: edited for content. You may only post information from the 1911 census that is available from a free search not the full transcriptions or images.
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Just listing the 4 younger ones together - all on the GRO index
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
CAREY, TERESA AGNES mmn PAUL
1908 March Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 506
CAREY, FRANCES EDITH mmn PAUL
1906 Dec Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 602
CAREY, ETHEL LILY mmn PAUL
1904 Dec Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 796
CAREY, PHILLIP mmn PAUL
1902 March Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 320
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Thank you all for your answers you have answered a lot of my questions and given me a lot to be getting on with.
Buzz
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1940 Census Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
George Carey 41 Kathleen Carey 42
George Carey 14 Theresa Carey 12 Geraldine Carey 11 Herbert Carey 8
"J" Carey 5 daughter
Obituary for Herbert F Carey - Published - The Detroit News on Feb. 17, 2002 - passed away February 13, 2002, age 70 years - mentions "Loving Brother of Geraldine and "J"(the late Joe Smalley" now deceased)
Obituary indicates that George and Theresa have also passed away.
Using whitepages usa you should be able to locate the surviving sister and relatives
http://www.whitepages.com/
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/detroitnews/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=182963893
Herbert Frederick Charles Carey - 9 July 1931 - 13 February 2002
Short extract of death announcement - Geraldine F Carey - Published The Times Herald - Port Huron Michigan - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - scroll to OCR text - gives a small snippet.
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/211027359/
George Henry Carey - 9 August 1925 passed away 22 May 1993 - Last Residence 48092 Warren, Macomb, Michigan.
Sandra
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Ethel Lillian Carey born Putney London crossed the border Canada to the USA - Detroit, Michigan - November 1923 - single - silver polisher - mother Frances carey 161 Bleecher St Toronto - going to Detroit Michigan. Brother George Carey - 612 Meldrum Avenue - Detroit Michigan.
Sadly Ethel nee Carey Amo passed away 25 September 1942 - aged 38 years Detroit Michigan.
The 1930 census showed Ethel and husband Rupert with a son Edgar Amo. 1940 showed Ethel as a patient at East Lawn Sanitorium High Street Northville, Wayne Michigan.
Edgar T Amo was born 30 March 1930 Detroit Wayne Michigan and passed away 28 July 1992
Last Residence 48224 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
Sandra
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Philip Carey - crossed the border at Detroit November 1923 - electrician - mother Mrs Frances Carey 161 Bleecher Street Toronto.
Philip also crossed the border 30 October 1929 Detroit Michigan - mother Frances Carey - 492 Drexel Ave. Detroit. Michigan. Sister Violet Carey 12 Drummond Road. Portsmouth - had been in the USA 1923 - 13/9/1929 - arrived Quebec on the Letitia 28 October 1929
Crossed USA to Canada - 14 August 1931 - going to Mrs Brunsdon 3 Dingwall Toronto - admission rejected.
1930 census shows Philip with mother Frances Carey - No Drexel Avenue Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
Frances Carey 53 Born England 1877. Widowed.
Philip Carey 28 Born England 1902.
Leo Callahan 25 Born 1905 Canada.
Theresa Callahan 22 Born England. daughter. Imm 1921.
Leo and Theresa were married 11 September 1929 Detroit Wayne Michigan to Leo V Callahan (names might be reversed - birth record shows Vincent Leo Callahan - 23 November 1904 - Hastings Ontario.
Theresa Agnes Carey Callahan - 5 January 1908 passed away 13 January 1992 -
Last Residence 41017 Ft Mitchell, Kenton, Kentucky.
FIND A GRAVE
Theresa A Callaghan -
Burial Saint Marys Cemetery Fort Mitchell Kenton County Kentucky.
Plot: sec 9B-lot 302-Weidekamp lot
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=171729418&ref=acom
Frances and Theresa Carey arrived Detroit Michigan 24 June 1923 - Frances was 45 years and Teresa was 15 years old. Sister Rose Brunsdon - Bleeker Toronto. Going to join son George Carey in Michigan.
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Donald Joseph Callahan - 29 October 1937 Detroit Wayne Michigan - passed away October 1985 - Father - Leo V Callahan and Mother: Theresa Carey.
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Leo William Callahan born 16 July 1932 passed away 30 September 1997 - Hardin Fayette Kentucky - aged 65 years - - Father - Leo V Callahan and Mother Teresa Cary.
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Leonard Francis Callahan - 29 September 1939 - 26 August 1998 - Father - Leo V Callahan and Mother Theresa Karie.
FIND A GRAVE with obituary attached.
Rev Leonard Francis Callahan - 29 September 1939 - 26 August 1998
Burial Saint Pius X Seminary Cemetery Florence Boone County Kentucky.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=103824690&ref=acom
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1998/08/29/loc_callahan29.html
Sandra
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Francis Carey aged 59 years remarried 2 October 1936 Flint, Genesee, Michigan to Cornelius Driscoll aged 65 years -
Frances residence recorded as 309 Paterson Street Flint Michigan - father William Paul and mother Ethel Etheridge.
Cornelius was a factory worker - parents recorded as Cornelius D Driscoll and Retta Romont.
Sandra
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1940 Census E Philadelphia Flint, Genesee, Michigan.
James D Boyle 73 Born Michigan. Widowed.
Cornelius J Driscall 69 Born Michigan. Pattern Maker.
Frances Driscall 63 Born England. Naturalized.
Cornelius and Francis show Flint, Michigan, City Directory, 1941 - 741 E Philadelphia Blvd - Flint, Michigan.
Sandra
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Apart from Rose Brunsdon (sister of Frances - mentioned earlier) There was also another sister Eleanor/Ellen Kealy born 1880 who also immigrated to Canada - so this could be the reason Frances also left the UK.
Canadian Passenger List - 22 November 1920 - shows William Kealy aged 44 years and family returning Liverpool to Quebec on the Metagama. Mrs E Kealy aged 40 years - Florence aged 9 years - Gladys aged 7 years- phyllis aged 5 years born Canada. Maud aged 3 years and Frederick aged 6 months. Had been in Canada 1913 - 1920.
3 August 1913 - Ascania - William aged 37 years - travelled alone.
Attestation Papers for William Kelay - dated 5 September 1915 - William husband of Eleanor/Ellen Carey Kealy.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=495400
Would be interesting to see if an obituary could be found for Eleanor Kealy who according to an ancestry tree passed away 13 March 1952 Toronto. Would the obituary mention Frances ??? Husband William Kealy passed away 6 November 1957.
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra for such detailed information.
I am researching my cousins ancestry on her fathers side, her paternal grandmother was George Alfred Carey's younger sister Elizabeth, so George and Frances children were my uncles cousins.
I will pass all the information on to my cousin.
Again thank so much.
Buzz
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Pleased to be able to help.
Frances Carey born 1908 London and aged 22 years appears on Canadian Passenger List - Montcalm - 24 October 1930 - domestic - brother Mr P Carey - 158 Bleeker Street, Toronto - nearest relative in country from whence came was an aunt - Mrs Jarvis 42 Crispin Avenue Burnt Oak Middlesex.
Sandra
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Would be interesting to see if an obituary could be found for Eleanor Kealy who according to an ancestry tree passed away 13 March 1952 Toronto. Would the obituary mention Frances ??? Husband William Kealy passed away 6 November 1957.
Sandra
Obit for Eleanor Kealy doesn't mention Frances. It is in the Toronto Star, March 14 1952, page 37. She died in Whitby on March 13, 1952. Wife of William Kealy. Late of 11 Otter Avenue. Mother of Mrs F Burnett (Florence), Mrs Charles Turton (Gladys), Mrs William Robertson (Phyllis), Mrs George Abdee (Maude), Mrs J Ryan (Mary), Mrs G O'Reilly (Madeline), Frederick, David and Arthur. Interment Mount Hope Cemetery.
RK