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Title: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: avidt on Thursday 20 July 17 11:54 BST (UK)
Hi

I am trying to trace a Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland. He married in Wallsend in 1913, but i don't know what part of Scotland he came from. Can anyone help me trace where he was born.

Many thanks

David ;)
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:02 BST (UK)
I did a quick search 1939 Register, Thomas/Ethel are in Wallsend.
Actual image will have more info :)
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:06 BST (UK)
From 1911/1901/1891 Census in Wallsend Thomas is born c 1883 Scotland, one has Eyemouth, Berwickshire.
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: avidt on Thursday 20 July 17 12:11 BST (UK)
Hi

I have now managed to find that Thomas was born in 1882 in the Eymouth RD of Berwick son of John and Frances Sibbit, I cant seem to find a marriage any help please !

Regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:15 BST (UK)
Parents may have married out of Scotland;

1891 we have;

John Sibbet, 42, born Felling, Durham
France F Sibbet, 42, born Scotland
Isabella Hall Sibbet, 16
John Sibbet, 13
Thomas Sibbet, 8***

Aaah, a Tree has they married 28th June 1872 • Lasswade, Edinburgh
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:24 BST (UK)
Likely Birth Reg for John c 1848 Felling, Durham;

SIBBET, JOHN, Mothers mn HALL*****
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in GATESHEAD UNION  Volume 24  Page 189


John Sibbit
birth: 2 June 1848
christening: 2 July 1848
residence:   1848   Gateshead, Durham, England   
father: JOHN Sibbit
mother: ISABELLA Sibbit
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: avidt on Thursday 20 July 17 12:37 BST (UK)
Hi  Trisha

Many thanks for that amazing information, that has been of great help to me. I cant see any marriage of a Sibbit and a Hall on Free BMD. Do you any suggestions as to where I can find the wedding or possible the names of the parents from one of the Census.

Kind Regards

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:46 BST (UK)
I cant find a Marriage either for John/Isabella but here is his Father/Grandfather ;)


John with Parents in Eyemouth in 1861;

John Sibbit, 44, Boatbuilder (journeyman)
Isabella Sibbit, 40, Wife, Born England
Thomas Sibbit, 85, Father, born England**
JOHN Sibbit, 12, born England*****
Thomas Sibbit, 10, born Ayton, Berwickshire
Catherine Sibbit, 8, born Ayton
Adam Sibbit, 5, born Ayton

1851 Census, Gunsgreen, Berwickshire;
Thomas Sibbit, 74, Labourer
John Sibbut, 34, Boat Builder
Isabella Sibbut, 31
JOHN Sibbut, 2
Thomas Sibbut, 5mths
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:50 BST (UK)
Did Civil Reg of Birth start 1855 Scotland? (not my area of expertise.)

Do they show where Parents married?

If so Adams Cert may have info;

Adam Sibbet
Gender:   Male
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1855
Birth Place: Ayton,Berwick,Scotland
Father:   John Sibbet
Mother:   Isabella Hall
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 20 July 17 12:56 BST (UK)
1841 Census
Tweedmouth, Durham
Thomas Sibbitt, 60, Labourer
John Sibbitt, 20, Boat Builder
Isabella HALL, 15, Female Servant
Barbara Beard, 70, no occp

Also on 1851 Census in Gunsgreen, Berwick is;
John HALL, 56, Boat Builder, born England
Margaret Hall, 24, born England

Possible Father/Sister of Isabella?
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: avidt on Thursday 20 July 17 13:25 BST (UK)
Hi Trish

Thanks again for that information, were they Scottish Census Records can we find where John and his father Thomas was born

Many thanks

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 20 July 17 23:58 BST (UK)
Did Civil Reg of Birth start 1855 Scotland? (not my area of expertise.)
Yes.

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Do they show where Parents married?
Yes, a Scottish birth certificate gives the date and place of the parents' marriage

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If so Adam's Cert may have info;
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1855
Should do. Being 1855, it should also tell you where his parents were born and how old they were, and also how many children they had had besides Adam.
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 21 July 17 00:05 BST (UK)
were they Scottish Census Records can we find where John and his father Thomas was born
The 1841 quoted above is in County Durham, which is not in Scotland. I believe that Tweedmouth, County Durham, is actually a detached piece of that county at Berwick-on-Tweed.
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: barryd on Friday 21 July 17 03:50 BST (UK)
Tweedmouth explained on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islandshire
Title: Re: Thomas Sibbit born c1883 in Scotland
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 July 17 04:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Forfarian and also barryd :)

Hi David,
You need to get the info you want from Scotlandspeople.
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
It is incredibly cheap for access to records BMD there.
+ Census images.

Trish :)