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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wiltshire => England => Wiltshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: palmerfamily on Sunday 23 July 17 13:03 BST (UK)
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Joseph Harold stokes
Born: 27 Jan 1898 Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Married: Alice Simmonds Feb 1924 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Died: May 1983 Blaenau Gwent, Glamorganshire, Wales
John Stokes
Born between 1857-1971
Married: Isabella Cummings Aug 1891 Newport (Monmouthshire), Monmouthshire, Wales
Died: Unknown
Winterflood Stokes
Born: 9 Feb 1834 England, Wanborough, Wiltshire
Married: Ellen Kinch
Died: Unknown
John Stokes
Born: 1813 Wiltshire, England
Married: Charlotte Loveridge 1 Oct 1832 Saint Mary, Lichfield, Stafford, England
Died: Unknown
Mark Stokes
Born:1790 Wiltshire, England
Married: Lavinia maybe Lavina Smith
Died: Unknown
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1901
3 Cheltenham Terrace Bridgend Glam
John Stokes Head M 30 Traveller CT Tydu Monmouthshire
Isabella wife 28 Cheltenham Gloucester
Maud daughter 7 Mardy Glam
Albert son 5 Ystrad glam
George son 4 Blaenavon
JOSEPH H son 2 Tredegar Mon
Agnes daughter 5mths Bridgend Glam
Ellen Stokes mother widow 67
Levi Searatt step brother W 52 Travelling Hawker Wilts
RG13 5050 82 36
for a start
Suz
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Thank you Suz I've found most of the census I'm mainly looking for advice on going further back..
Kind Regards
Delysia
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Born between 1857-1971
I know you mean 1871 but that is a 14yr difference in his birthyear.
mainly looking for advice on going further back..
No clues given as to who their respective parents were
You say you have census info so presumably have the parents of the younger Stokes and in turn the parents marriages from freebmd to establish mothers maiden name
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When and where was the Stokes/Kinch marriage, please?
Added: He is called Waterflood Stokes, a travelling tinman in 1881.
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Re: Winterflood Stokes. A tree on Ancestry shows his wife as Ellen Davies and his death in 1926 in Columbia
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Winterflood's baptisn referred to here:
http://rtfhs.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Wiltshire-Traveller-Baptisms-Collected-by-Anne-Armstrong.pdf
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Is this the Columbia connection - District of Columbia, USA, not Colombia the country, (my confusion)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kfu/
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Born between 1857-1971
I know you mean 1871 but that is a 14yr difference in his birthyear.
mainly looking for advice on going further back..
No clues given as to who their respective parents were
You say you have census info so presumably have the parents of the younger Stokes and in turn the parents marriages from freebmd to establish mothers maiden name
yes sorry did mean 1871 and I'm very much aware there is 14 year gap... I have no census for Mark and Lavina and they are my brick wall...
Kind Regards
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When and where was the Stokes/Kinch marriage, please?
Added: He is called Waterflood Stokes, a travelling tinman in 1881.
I have no evidence of their marriage just information given by family members
Kind Regards
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Re: Winterflood Stokes. A tree on Ancestry shows his wife as Ellen Davies and his death in 1926 in Columbia
I'll take a look thank you but I'm pretty confident this is another Winter I have found a few in the family so far... hopefully will be another branch
Kind Regards
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Birth year and birthplace plus parentage are the same in that tree as given by you
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Could you perhaps say where the baptism for John is? I've found a Mark and Lavinia in Wiltshire, but I can't find them baptising a son called John? tried ancestry/familysearch/findmypast
There is a 'Marck' Stokes baptised 1782 Edington Wiltshire to William and Sarah which might be worth taking a look at. However, if they were travellers, they may not have registered baptisms, marriages and deaths very thoroughly.
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There is a baptism for Silverthorn Stokes in October 1821, son of Mark and Lavinia in Colston, Wiltshire.
Further down the page there looks to be a baptism of John Stokes, son of John and Ann, of Westrop (?) Wilts, also in October 1821, but the father is a labourer not a traveller.
Both baptisms are in the parish of Highworth.
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Birth year and birthplace plus parentage are the same in that tree as given by you
Would this be the Edwards family tree.? I have see this tree on a few sites and have reached out to them... I would very much like to compare research and stories... I've been given the name Kinch by a family member... Ellen's son Levi was a Scarrott so there is a very good possibility that Ellen's name was Scarrott at the time she may have married Winter..
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I'm guessing Wiltshire but honestly don't know...
Silverthorn.... ??? ??? That's another new one... I wonder what inspired that name... ??? ???
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Westrop is a tithing of Highworth.
Scarrott are a local funfair family.
also may be of interest; http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=281941.0
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Thank you I will take a look ;D
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http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1901%2f0033189188
here's the Levi connection but I've just looked at Ellen and Levi's suggested births on this census and there's only a 15 year age gap so I'm now thinking maybe she's not his mum... ???