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My Great Grandfather was Herbert Barratt born 1866 - married Sarah Cockayne, born 1863 from Swanwick Derbys in 1866? -Wanting info on his family roots please............
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Re: Herbert Barratt born 1886 Farnsfield Notts- family connections
Your subject shows birthyear 1886 but your post 1866
Wanting info on his family roots please.
Have you not checked the 1871 and 1881 censuses for him - they are free on Family Search
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01egx/
If his birth is on freebmd you can check for his mothers maiden name using the GRO online search facility
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
His marriage will be on freebmd - a copy of the cert will give his fathers name and occupation
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Just about to suggest this for family in 1881
John Barratt 43 railway labourer
Martha 45
Herbert 15 born Farnsfield Notts
John 10
Arthur 8
Ann 8
Emily 6
Herbert's marriage to Sarah in 1886 confirms his father as John.
Sarah's father is James.
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Thanks, but I seem to be in a muddle here......Herbert Barratt I think was born in 1866 and married Sarah Cockayne in 1886.........libralady
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Yes that fits with the information posted above - born 1866 married 1886 :)
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Thankyou Millipede........I am trying to find out information on the Barratt family......I know Herbert married my great grandmother Sarah in June 1886, I think at Alfreton Derbys when he was 20 and she was 23, they had 7 children, Lucy my grandmother was the eldest born April 14th 1888, followed by Ada, William, Marina, Eliza, Henry and Alfred...........any information on when and were they where all born and whereabouts.....I am trying to organise a family tree.....
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these sites mentioned will not let me in,
Family Search and freebmd are sites accessed regularly by thousands of researchers. Perhaps it's your browser. Try accessing using Firefox as I use that for Family Search without problem
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There appears to be a temporary fault accessing census records on Family search but no problem with freebmd
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Hi cousin - Herbert is also my great grandfather.
Lucy's brother William (Bill) is my mother's dad.
We are also in touch with mutual relatives - Alf's son John and his wife Mary.
I don't have much information, but I found Herbert on the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census as well as the record of his marriage to Sarah. I have not yet dug any further.
Bill was born on 4th July 1892 in South Normanton.
I have a copy of Bill's birth certificate which I can mail you. I also have a copy of a photo with Herbert, Lucy and Dorcus which I could send you if you don't already have a copy.
I've only joined the web site today - I'll see if i can send you a message.
Roy
Just found out that I can't send attachments and cannot send messages until I've made 3 posts. You could send me a personal message with your email address if you want, or John & Mary have my email address and phone number if you want to contact them.
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=775356.msg6291960#msg6291960
ROY if you just post a couple of replies to this smilies even,you could send a private post. Welcome by the way
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Sacko- well hello there, 2nd or 3rd cousin Roy - great to here from you........I have most of my information from Cheshiremog, who I was in contact with through this site during last week who will be related to you also, his great grandfather was William Cockayne our great grandmother Sarah's younger brother....as you may know Sarah (our great grandmother) and Charlotte Cockayne (twins) were the eldest of the Cockaynes, born in 1863, then James, Joe, John, Rosetta (died aged 4) William and Arthur followed.......There parent's were James Cockayne and Charlotte (nee Ball), They lived in Swanwick........
I have the family tree of the Cockayne's dating back to the 1700's, passed down to me from Cheshire mog.....I have some photo's of the Cockayne family, but do not know who they are as I was born well after they had all died.......I live in Newthorpe Eastwood and have been in touch with John and Mary Barratt, they are the only remaining cousins to my mother who was a younger daughter of Lucy nee Barratt and Arthur Thorpe, (your great aunt and uncle)......Aunty Dorcas was their eldest child, then Jack, Joe, Margaret (My mother), Alan and Grace........I am in touch with all my cousins who are still around, but parent's aunts and uncles all died..........I am also new on RootChat.com, joined last week and came across Cheshiremog who was enquiring about Charlotte's Cockayne death....I new Charlotte was my great grandmother's sister so I replied and they gave me loads of information, but just on the Cockaynes................I decided to search for the Barratt's......I heard about them when I was a child and was led to believe that they came from Ashbourne and were Irish immigrants, but through this site, it was mentioned that they came from Farnsfield and were a mining family, so I have been curious to find out, also am very curious to find out where Herbert and Sarah met, where they married also where and when the children were born, I know they moved to Pinxton when Lucy my grandmother was about 10 years old.........I thought that there was just 7 children, but according to this forum, there were 10.... (2 male stillborn)......My name is Lynn nee Housley, I was born on September 30th 1945 to Joseph and Margaret nee Thorpe in Hucknall Notts.....the 2nd of 6 children, I am married to Malcolm Taylor (1970) and have one daughter Jemma Swift she is married with 2 children and live in Awsworth.......I can remember Ada, married Alf Smitheringale (no children) and lived in Mansfield- Annie ?(cannot remember her husband or whether she had children, I was about 5 when she died) and Eliza, Married Sam Riley and lived on Lynncroft (no children), after he died she married George Harvey, lived on Engine Lane and then in Spinney flats, Nuthall - Eliza is one of my godmothers also remember Alfred, (cannot remember his wife) from my childhood, but do not have any recollection of ever meeting William, Henry or Marina, I know Marina (Minnie) married Fred Slaney and had Fred and Mary and Alf married, don't know who ? and they had Alf and John and lived on Three Tuns Road in Eastwood, Minnie's family lived around the corner on Edward Road.......John and Mary are cousins who married and live about a mile down the road from me at John's House.........I have not seen them for a while.....I was thinking about going to see them as I want to know where their parents, aunts and uncles were born and where they grew up before moving to Pinxton as I want to complete the family tree which I have been sent from Cheshiremog (he is Martin Cockayne, the great grandson of William Cockayne)........I am interested in photographs, but not the birth and marriage certificates as I think I have the dates they were married and I know Lucy my grandma was born April 14th 1888 and married Arthur June 8th 1908......the birth dates of all the other children would be great and the date they all married...........my name is Lynn Taylor ,........thankyou for contacting me, love to hear from you again.....libralady Lynn xxx
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Lynn, you will need to remove your E Mail address as it is not allowed. You need to send it by the private messages box. ;)
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Okay......but I cannot get it off, there is no delete button, everytime I press quote, it keeps reappearing... can you delete my email address for me ? - libralady...
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Hi Libralady
As a a moderator, I can delete your email address but have you tried using the 'modify' button to edit your post rather than the 'quote' button?
Dawn
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I'm new around here so may have misunderstood, but the Help facility says you '....have up to 24 hours from your first posting to modify a topic...' so libralady will not be able to modify it.
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No modify button on , just the quote, so I cannot get my e.mail address removed, could someone please delete this for me, thanks ?.......libralady,
Address deleted.
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Thanks....libralady...
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Lynn, you will need to remove your E Mail address as it is not allowed. You need to send it by the private messages box. ;)
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Hi. I am also a relation. John Barratt (married to Mary) is my uncle. I am Alfreds youngest. I know Herbert and Sarah married in June 1886 in Belper/Ripley. Would love to find out more.
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Yes, Alfred Barratt would be my grandmother Lucy Barrett's youngest brother......I was lead to believe that he married and had 2 sons, Alfred and John, did not know about a daughter - I knew John married Mary, his cousin and they have no children, but did not know who Alf married and what children he has........I am struggling with the siblings their spouses and children and cannot find where Great grandfather lived after he and Sarah split up and when and where he died...... On my previous page is the info I found out.....Who are you ?........I know Herbert Barratt, born 1866, married Sarah Cockayne a twin, born 1882 - they married in 1886 in Belper had had 10 children 2 stillborn and raised 8 children.......
Stillborn 1887 - Lucy (my gran) 1888 - stillborn 1889 - Ada 1890 - William 1892, Marina - Annie- Eliza- Henry - Alfred.............struggling with the spouses and children and cannot find where Herbert lived after they split up and where and when he died......Lucy married Arthur Thorpe in 1908 and had 6 children, their 4th child Margaret was my mother.....Ada married Alf Smitheringale, do not know when, they lived in Mansfield, no children...Eliza married Sam Riley, do not know when and lived I Eastwood, no children...cannot find anything about the other's their spouses and children.....I want to find out so that I can do the family tree.......I have the family tree sent to me from a relative of the Cockayne family, all the way down to Sarah's family and her siblings with photo's......Have not been doing research for a while as I have been too busy, (school holidays and grandchildren) -my mother Margaret passed away 2003, she was cousin to Removed Barratt who seem to be the only 2 left alive....Have no one to ask for help, just relying on this site, not been helpful with Herbert, he seemed to have disappeared....Anyway, I will keep trying.....I have sent Removed all the info about my Grandmother, Lucy and all her children, grandchildren etc.....Maybe he will pass it onto you......My name is Lynn Taylor and I live in Newthorpe Notts....
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Hi Lyn.
I am Kate and live in Grendon Atherstone. I don't know too much. Have searched online. But all so confusing. My dad Alfred (Johns) brother married Sheila. We went to South Africa in 1972. I came back 8 years ago this month. My sister is living in long Eaton and my brother lives in South Africa. He was here on holiday and we visited uncle and aunty a couple of weeks ago.He said I was the 3rd person in the last few weeks to ask him about the cockaynes. My dad does not know too much about his aunts and uncles but I found a list of their names on the internet. I believe we are related to sir Thomas cockayne. They had ashbourne house and I found out also pooley hall in polesworth down the road from me
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I'm presuming here that Sarah is (one of the) daughter of James and Charlotte Cockayne. I've spent much time over the last couple of months unravelling their story - especially two rather sad outcomes in the 1870s. I haven't explored the family any further than that but would be interested to know who their sons and daughters ultimately married.
Alan
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Thanks Kate, have made a note of your e.mail and have sent a brief message back to you, do not know whether you received it, have a temperamental PC.....
As it is late will write tomorrow with the info I have......Night Night......Distant Cousin Lynn Taylor nee Housley Xxx
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Glad you made a note of my email. Thought i put it in a private message but not too sure now. Might have to delete it.
Good night. Speak soon.
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Hi Lynn.
Just reading some of your posts again. Did you say Sarah & Herbert were your great grand parents? They are mine too. My grandparenys were johns parents Alfred Mathuen & Hilda (Babs)
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Herbert and Sarah Barratt were my great grand parents - their first child Lucy Barratt was my grand mother, she was Alfred's eldest sister......
I have tried writing you on the E Mail address you sent, but it will not send, maybe I have written it down wrong, please contact me on the e mail address I sent you........Lynn
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I did not get yours. Mine is Removed
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Hi Kate & Lynn
I've spend quite a bit of time searching for Herbert but not really made any progress yet.
I didn't know that Herbert & Sarah had split up but that makes sense. Do you know roughly when this happened?
I note that in the 1911 census, Sarah was living in Eastwood with her son William (my grandad) and a lodger (Gervase Towson aged 64). The census says that Sarah had 11 children of which 4 had died - none of then were living with her except William.
I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to be passing on any emails - please let me know.
Roy
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Have not been on the site for a while as I came to a standstill with Herbert and Sarah Annie, Henry and Marina and their families.......I know Sarah was living at Greasley top with her son William and her lodger, then nothing until she passed away in the Highbury Hospital workhouse......No information on Henry at all after they split up......Cannot get in touch with Kate as her e mail that she left me was incorrect......Still struggling with this and nobody left alive to ask......A bit busy at the moment with family as well, but will keep searching.......my e.mail is .........will be in touch regards Lynn
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Hi Roy & Lynn
I don't have much info but know Sarah & Herbert were my great grandparents. Ask anything and I will try to find out what I can. I think my sister has a bit more info than me. Can put you in touch with her. I would love to find out more and am starting to realise our family is so much bigger than I realised.
Lynn I have emailed you and hope you received it.
Kate x
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Have not received your e.mail......libra lady (Lynn)
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