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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: Jamjar on Monday 31 July 17 06:05 BST (UK)
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I have used 6 credits to view a marriage entry on SP, yet when I go to view, it has a cover page and tells me that it will be another 6 credits to view the next page.
There are 88 pages, so am I expected to use 6 credits for every page? What if my marriage is on page 88? That would be a very expensive viewing for the entry, yes?
JARDINE JOSEPH JANET KER/FRMRV69-1P1 16/11/1792 851/ 10 0 Tundergarth
16/11/1792 JARDINE, JOSEPH (Old Parish Registers Marriages 851/ 10 0 Tundergarth) Page 0 of 88
I can't recall ever having this problem before. Am I doing something wrong?
Jamjar
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I've never had this happen to me. I have only ever viewed the page where the entry is.
One of the Scottish experts may know of a way around this, but it might be worth you contacting SP. It could be a problem their end. They are usually very helpful. :)
Good luck.
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Thank you, Ruskie, I have sent them an email via their site 'report and issue'.
Jamjar
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Out curiosity can you please pop back and let us know what they say? I'm not too experienced with Scottish research, though I do read a lot of threads, but I can't recall anyone else mentioning this, and it might be handy to know the outcome. :)
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Absolutely, I shall. ;D
Jamjar
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I've occasionally had the wrong page showing - though not a cover page. It's because the link in the index to the image is wrong. In my experience, they are very helpful and apologetic and send the correct image via e-mail or, if the image is missing, most likely you will be refunded your credits.
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Jamjar, are you aware of this web site http://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/ ?
If not, do have a look at it. It just might contain something on your Joseph Jardine and Janet Kerr.
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I have fingers crossed, Gadget.
My Jardine were from Dumfries, Forfarian.
I have everything on them and I thought that I had their marriage details, but I can't find them on the computer.
Jamjar
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Ah, OK, I thought I had seen something there about Joseph Jardine. Obviously mistaken - couldn't be further from Tunderfarth if they tried :)
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Just found this on one of your old threads:
Joseph and Janet were married 16 Nov 1792 in Tundergarth. At that time Joseph lived at Hayhill, and Janet at Rosebank. Joseph was born in 1767 (birthdate/place unknown). Janet was born 1772, again date/place unknown.
So maybe you did have the info at one time :-\
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Yes, Gadget, I'm sure I did. :'(
I do have Janet's baptism now, though. ;D
Jamjar
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I've had no reply from SP. >:(
Have just contacted them again.
They say they aim to reply in 3 working days. We'll see. ::)
Jamjar
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Jamjar,
SP are usually really good with responses & refunding your credits!
Your email was sent Monday a.m. & it's Thursday very early a.m. here now which means they won't open for another 5 hrs ;D
Annie
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Friday lunch time here, Annie. ;D
Hopefully, they will provide me with the marriage details, rather than a credit.
Jamjar
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You will get both....Image & refunded credits!
Hopefully by your bed-time tonight :-\ ;D
Annie
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Jamjar,
I didn't know you were 18 hrs ahead of Scotland!
In fact, I never knew anywhere was more than 12 hrs ahead :-[
Amazing what we learn on RC without even having to post a query ::)
Annie
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We aren't Annie.
It is currently Thursday 3 August 1:38pm - as in afternoon - here.
You are heading for 5am, so you are 9 hours behind us.
Jamjar
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Friday lunch time here, Annie. ;D
;D ;D Clocks not ready to go forward just yet!
Anyway, good luck with SP, will read later as I'm off to bed now for a few hrs :P
Annie
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Friday lunch time here, Annie. ;D
;D ;D Clocks not ready to go forward just yet!
Anyway, good luck with SP, will read later as I'm off to bed now for a few hrs :P
Annie
Oops, silly I. ;D ;D
Sleep well.
Jamjar
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Received a very polite and helpful reply from SP.
" Where an index link leads only to a microfilm cover sheet, it typically means that the original indexers had found the corresponding entry within a different record set from the Old Parish Registers (most commonly kirk session records, though they can also include duplicate registers or local midwives' registers). Although there are no linked digital images available, these entries have been retained in the online index to help users locate further records of relevance to their research and we will look up the additional volumes upon request. If our search is unsuccessful, we will, of course, refund any credits used.
In this instance, the entry relates to a nineteenth-century transcription of a kirk session register for Tundergarth, one of the so-called 'Miscellaneous Manuscript Records', a collection comprising mainly duplicate or scroll copies of registers placed in the custody of the Registrar General to supplement the Old Parish Registers (see here for a detailed list of these records: https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/research/miscellaneous-manuscript-records-catalogue.pdf). I have looked through the corresponding kirk session record (NRS catalogue ref. CH2/831/1), which records marriages for the years 1792 to 1824, and was able to find the original entry pertaining to the marriage of Joseph Jardine and Janet Ker on page 66. Please find attached an image of this folio for you to download. The relevant entry can be found at the bottom of the right-hand page.
This particular kirk session volume contains a census of the parish compiled between 31 October and 17 November 1791, which lists the names and ages of all occupants of Tundergarth. I also looked through this later section of the volume on your behalf, and was able to find an entry for Joseph Jardine on p. 146 and potentially one for Janet Ker[r] on p. 148 (Joseph's place of residence is the same as in the marriage entry, while Janet's is merely given as Tundergarth in the census). I have attached images of both pages for you to download in case they are helpful, along with a page describing the scope of the parish survey to set these in context."
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So glad you got a good response. The thorough search that they've done explains the delay.
They are good :)
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They are good :)
:) :)
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Jamjar, that's a great response & they have excelled...lucky you & far more than the return of credits would get you...Well done SP I think ;)
Annie
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Thanks for letting us know the outcome Jamjar.
No wonder it took a little while for them to respond if they had to trawl through the document to find the appropriate entries. Excellent service!