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Title: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 13:49 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am enquiring about my great-great-grandfather, Charles Salter. I don't know much about him. He married Mary Jane Moore in 1907, in Calne. By 1909, my great-grandfather was born in the hamlet of New Zealand. Charles was listed as a labourer. By Thomas Henry's 1937 wedding to Dorothy Scott, Charles is listed as William Charles, and there is no mention of him being dead. His wife died in 1950, in Calne. Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

Adam McGregor
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: groom on Friday 04 August 17 13:56 BST (UK)
Have you got a rough date of birth for him or found him on any censuses?
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 13:59 BST (UK)
Sadly the family do not appear on the 1911 census. They were living in a hamlet, so there's a chance they were overlooked. Seeing as they married between that census and the 1901 census, I don't know his age. His wife was born in 1883, in Hilmarton.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: groom on Friday 04 August 17 14:03 BST (UK)
Got him in 1901 - marriage gives his father as Thomas and date of birth about 1885

RG13; Piece: 1922; Folio: 26; Page: 3

Thomas Salter   63    Ag Lab                          Calne, Wiltshire
Amelia Salter   57                                        Calne, Wiltshire
George Salter   19   Ag Lab                            Calne, Wiltshire
Charles Salter   16  Cattleman on farm             Calne, Wiltshire
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 04 August 17 14:05 BST (UK)
Was about to ask the same.

 Well done Groom :)
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:05 BST (UK)
Yes, I've seen that one. But I can find no Charles who died with a birth date of 1885.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:06 BST (UK)
Oh the marriage gives his father as Thomas?
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 04 August 17 14:10 BST (UK)
He does appear on the 1911 with his wife & children in Calne
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:12 BST (UK)
He does? I have never managed to locate such a record. Might I find it on Ancestry?
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 04 August 17 14:14 BST (UK)
Possible other child
SALTER, GEORGE  VICTOR     mmn MOOR     
1911  June Quarter in CALNE  Volume 05A  Page 71

Try the workhouse  ::)
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 04 August 17 14:15 BST (UK)
SALTER, CHARLIE, Motthers mn PROBIS **
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in CALNE  Volume 05A  Page 96

Marriage Reg 1866 Calne
Amelia Provis
Thomas Salter
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:16 BST (UK)
Yes, that's Uncle Vic. Him and my great-grandfather used to go to the pub together. I'll try the workhouse.

Trish,

I have investigated that line. Thanks.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: groom on Friday 04 August 17 14:17 BST (UK)
Quite a few siblings

1891  RG12; Piece: 1596; Folio: 29; Page: 7

You can find this on Ancestry

Thomas Salter   51
Amelia Salter   46
Albert Salter   19
Alfred Salter   12
George Salter   9
Charles Salter   6


Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:18 BST (UK)
Here they are in 1911:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X72L-Y4V
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: groom on Friday 04 August 17 14:19 BST (UK)
Oh the marriage gives his father as Thomas?

The actual certificate can be seen on Ancestry.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 04 August 17 14:21 BST (UK)
Anc has them as SALLER in 1911 ::)
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for all of this. So he was born in 1884. Just need to find a death certificate now.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: groom on Friday 04 August 17 14:23 BST (UK)
Need to go and get my hair cut now, so I'll leave you to it.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:26 BST (UK)
OK, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 04 August 17 14:29 BST (UK)
Have you found him or Mary J on the 1939 register  :-\
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:33 BST (UK)
Good idea. I'll search now.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:34 BST (UK)
Mary Jane is there, with an Albert Weston. Searching for Charles now.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:35 BST (UK)
Can't find any record of Charles.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 04 August 17 14:50 BST (UK)
Does it say whether Mary J is married or widowed
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 04 August 17 14:58 BST (UK)
I can't see, as I don't have membership with findmypast.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 06 July 18 21:55 BST (UK)
Today I had an amazing breakthrough!

Firstly, my birth certificate for Charles came. Secondly, Ancestry did their free weekend thing. I found Charles King (with the same birth date) living in Worcestershire. However, his name had been corrected to King-Salter! He died as Charles K Salter in the same area in 1954, and I'm sending off for that certificate. He obviously adopted an alias as he had abandoned his wife (living alone in 1939 yet still listed as married) but someone at the NHS probably had changed it back.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 07 July 18 12:37 BST (UK)
Excellent result there :)
Title: Re: Death of Charles Salter of New Zealand, Calne
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 07 July 18 12:39 BST (UK)
It is! I'm very pleased. That's that mystery solved anyway. With no doubt.