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Title: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: margemcm59 on Sunday 06 August 17 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi, My great grandmother was from Westmeath, I think her name was Margaret Horan, she married Edward Browning, a British soldier in Cork.  My grandmother Mary Browning was born in Fermoy.  I would love to have even a snippet of information about them. They married around the very early 1890s.  thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 06 August 17 15:50 BST (UK)
Mary born 1893
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02301/1863035.pdf
James 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02344/1876576.pdf
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Sunday 06 August 17 15:51 BST (UK)
For reference
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Henry_Place/936104/

there was also a James 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02344/1876576.pdf
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 06 August 17 16:02 BST (UK)
In 1911 they say they are married 21 years so c 1890, but I'm not seeing it.
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Strathaden_Street/138682/
James died in Fermoy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06016/4712918.pdf
I see they had 11 children 7 living in 1911 so I wonder if James was their first child?

For ref 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Henry_Place/936104/
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Sunday 06 August 17 16:11 BST (UK)
His service record if it still exists should give his marriage date
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 06 August 17 16:12 BST (UK)
Does the British Army overseas register include marriages?
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 06 August 17 16:32 BST (UK)
Daughter Margaret 1891 Mullingar
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02398/1894317.pdf
Death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06079/4734023.pdf
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Sunday 06 August 17 17:47 BST (UK)
note on Margaret's death informant is Aunt Mary J Horan,Ballinderry
There's this family no Mary though
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Mullingar_Urban/Ballinderry/1783428/
not sure of this one Ballyglass 1894
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10572/5851567.pdf
possible birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP5N-FZQ
Katie 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10428/5797043.pdf

Margaret ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ki8/



Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Sunday 06 August 17 18:24 BST (UK)
Thomas died 1908 informant sister Mary Jane Cassidy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05494/4538926.pdf
 James 1907 same informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05512/4544795.pdf
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 06 August 17 18:50 BST (UK)
Ballinderry is the address on (Margaret )the first child's birth, Margaret quite possibly had her at her parents home.
A Mary Horan Aunt was the informant in both the birth and death.

Sorry dathai just reading over the thread I see you already noted this, this is what happens when you do searches at work those pesky customers keep interrupting. :D
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Sunday 06 August 17 19:27 BST (UK)
Margaret Horan still alive 1911 with daughter Mary Jane Cassidy
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Mullingar_North_Urban/Mary_Street/885875/

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Mullingar_North_Urban/Bishopgate_Street/1783020/
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 07 August 17 01:10 BST (UK)
Edward Browning b c 1864. Enlisted Royal Irish rifles in 1884... Served till 1902. Father John. Wife Margaret Horan....married in 1889 in Mullingar,Westmeath.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Monday 07 August 17 02:02 BST (UK)
Edward Browning b c 1864. Enlisted Royal Irish rifles in 1884... Served till 1902. Father John. Wife Margaret Horan....married in 1889 in Mullingar,Westmeath.

Nice one,
The marriage doesn't seem to be registered but there is one marriage result for Edward Browning 1889 +/- 5 on RootsIreland which is a subscription site but does a 24 hour sub.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 07 August 17 02:09 BST (UK)
They were married at -  Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (R.C.). Built in 1836, it was demolished in 1936 to make way for the new Christ the King Cathedral.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Monday 07 August 17 08:32 BST (UK)
Kate Horan/Mooney
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Mullingar_Urban/The_Grove/1783738/
1911 Dublin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Shaw_s_Lane/38825/

Catherine born Dec 1876 Boardstown father a Railway Timekeeper
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03021/2107201.pdf
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: margemcm59 on Friday 18 August 17 14:25 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone, I would like to thank you all individually but I don't know how, so much information to process, but I am very grateful for all your help. 
Thank you so much
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Friday 18 August 17 15:21 BST (UK)
Does the British Army overseas register include marriages?

Ireland wasn't overseas in the 1890s. I would think that a marriage would still have to be registered in the county in which it took place anyway.
Title: Re: Drowning of Andrew Johnston
Post by: margemcm59 on Wednesday 23 August 17 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi, My uncle was drown as a child in the river Lagan in 1929. His name was Andrew Johnston.  I have newspaper clippings of the incident and photographs.  He lived in 42 Clyde Street Belfast.  I was wondering if anyone could find out who his father and family was or any information at all relating to the Johnston family from this address.  Thank you for all your help in the past, I  am very grateful.

kind regards
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 23 August 17 18:24 BST (UK)
His death is post 1922 so it's won't be on Irish Genealogy, you need Northern Ireland records at PRONI, I've never needed to use it so I always forget the rules.
Assuming his birth is less than 100 years ago than I don't think the cert can be viewed online but his death cert possibly is viewable, you do need to purchase a few credits, it's hard to tell how much information you would gain for the death cert, his age at least, maybe his father's occupation, and hopefully the informant is a family member.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: margemcm59 on Thursday 24 August 17 13:20 BST (UK)
thank you so much Sinann, you are very helpful.
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: dathai on Thursday 24 August 17 17:02 BST (UK)
Face book say's age 11 died while fishing his attempted rescuer also drowned
https://www.facebook.com/belfasthistoryproject/
Title: Re: Browning Edward british soldier
Post by: annclare on Friday 25 August 17 10:45 BST (UK)
They were married at -  Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (R.C.). Built in 1836, it was demolished in 1936 to make way for the new Christ the King Cathedral.
Brief transcript of Church marriage 11-Apr-1889       
Parish / District:   MULLINGAR      County:   Co. Westmeath
Husband      Wife
Name:   Edward   Browning      Margaret   Horan
Address:   Not Recorded      Not Recorded
Denomination:   Roman Catholic      Roman Catholic
Occupation:   Not Recorded      Not Recorded
:
DAY OF MARRIAGE NOT RECORDED