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Title: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Monday 07 August 17 14:35 BST (UK)
I am looking for information about Samuel Eaton. He was convicted of theft at Dorchester assizes on 16/7/1845. Then sent to Millbank prison, London. He was transported as a "convict exile" on the Joseph Somes and landed at Geelong on 24/9/1847. I have no information about him after his arrival in Australia.
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: rosball on Monday 07 August 17 23:31 BST (UK)
Hi Mary,
  From Victorian BDM https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

Death 1887 Samuel EATON, parents names not listed, age 66, place of death Narracan, spouse Elizabeth SHEARING, reg 14886

Ros

adding : Marriage 1861 Samuel EATON and Elizabeth SHEARING reg 2397
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 08 August 17 00:16 BST (UK)

Arrival.

Elizabeth SHEARING
Age30
Arrival 3 Aug 1853
At Geelong, Australia
From Southampton
Ship Mooltan
Born Middlesex
C of E
Domestic Servant
Could read
To Mrs Robertson at ?? Bank, Geelong
Has relations in colony.

Sue
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: majm on Tuesday 08 August 17 03:46 BST (UK)
Victoria was hived off from NSW in 1851.  The NSW State Archives online index for Convict Exiles includes Samuel, per the Joseph Somes noting he received a conditional pardon.   
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/convict-exiles-index 

I will send a PM to a UK RChatter who has done a great deal of research into many of the Pentonian lads, perhaps he has further info on Samuel  :)

Also see http://ergo.slv.vic.gov.au/explore-history/colonial-melbourne/convicts/pentonvillains


JM
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Tuesday 08 August 17 11:14 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information  Ros, Sue and JM. I knew nothing about Samuel after he left England. I had hoped that he had a family in Australia and a better life. It seems it took a long time for him to find a wife. Is there any Australian records of children please?   

Mary
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 09 August 17 04:46 BST (UK)
Hi Mary,

I can't see any births to Samuel and Elizabeth on Victorian BDM (free to search). https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
I checked for births to Elizabeth before marriage too.

I can't see a probable death for Elizabeth - there is a death of an Elizabeth EATON in 1895 aged 80 but parents' names do not seem to match as you can see.

A charge against Samuel dismissed http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87997163

Ros



Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: judb on Wednesday 09 August 17 07:31 BST (UK)
Victorian certificates give excellent genealogical information, so long as the informant has the knowledge and/or is truthful.  You can download the image of Samuel's death certificate from the Victorian BMD site for about $AU25
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

The information requested for the certificate is:
 Date and place of death;
 name and surname;
 occupation of the deceased;
 sex and age;
 cause of death,
 duration of illness,
 medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased;
 name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname       
signature, description and address of the person who gave the information;  signature of deputy registrar, date and where registered,
 when and where buried,
 undertaker whom certified;
 name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial;
 place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian colonies or states (stating which),
 name of spouse,
 place of marriage,
 age at marriage;
 names and ages of children of the deceased.

Obviously the informant may not know all of this information about the deceased so the certificate may not be much help or the record may give almost useless information such as "England" for the place of birth.

Another thought -  I wonder if Elizabeth had been married before she came as she was 30 then, and thus SHEARING is not her birth surname? I've had a bit of a hunt but can't find anything definitive. I can't see a marriage for the Elizabeth nee SANDERS who was EATON on her death cert (found by Ros above) either. Her immigration record says she has relatives already in Victoria.

Judith


Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: cando on Wednesday 09 August 17 07:34 BST (UK)
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I can't see a probable death for Elizabeth - there is a death of an Elizabeth EATON in 1895 aged 80 but parents' names do not seem to match.

There are no births on my resource for Samuel and Elizabeth.  Perhaps she was a widow when she married Samuel and SHEARING was her maiden name.  Only the certificate would provide that information.

I've checked for a headstone at Narracan cemetery with nil result.

This is the only marriage I can find that has SHEARING and SAUNDERS but may not be them.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Sep 1848 
SAUNDERS    Elizabeth         Stepney    2/427    
SHEARING    Abraham         Stepney    2/427

Parish record
SAUNDERS Elizabeth
SHEARING Abraham
3 Jul 1848  St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Father     John Saunders
Spouse Father    Abraham Shearing

Death mentioned by Ros.  Father's surname mistranscribed?  Age is possibly incorrect also.

EATON Elizabeth
Father John SANDERS Mother Amelia UNKNOWN
At Hotham West Benevolent Asylum  80 years  1895  Reg#13649

Cando



Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Wednesday 09 August 17 11:02 BST (UK)
Thank you all again.
 Judith I have now got the death certificate and trying to decipher the writing!! I found the idea of a previous marriage interesting, Cando. The 1841 census shows Elizabeth (16) and Abraham  Shearing(58) in Middlesex, but it doesn't give any relationship. I assumed father and daughter. As for the Sanders/Saunders transcription I quite understand as my maiden name was Sanders and when tracing my family the spelling changes regularly!!! Have now got marriage cert. Elizabeth was a widow, father's name John Saunders!!

Mary
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: judb on Wednesday 09 August 17 13:37 BST (UK)
Oh my - that Cando is one smart lady.  I'd had a little hunt but didn't think to look for a different spelling.  Abraham Shearing is mentioned on an on-line tree; his father's name was apparently Abraham as well. On the marriage image Elizabeth's bridegroom's occupation is mariner (I think) and his father's occupation is "gentleman".

Off to bed on this side of the world now!

I think you can include the death certificate as an attachment without breaking copyright.

Great outcome!  Judith
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: cando on Wednesday 09 August 17 13:54 BST (UK)
I'm off too bed too but I have a few more snippets about Samuel in Victoria from my resources.  Will type them up tomorrow.

Cando
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Wednesday 09 August 17 19:48 BST (UK)
 Thank you, all this is soo exciting!!! I have found  Abraham Shearing in 1849 a Pr+Pr steward British Royal Navy on vessel Castor, wife Elizabeth. Cannot find Abraham's death in either England or Australia.
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: cando on Thursday 10 August 17 01:09 BST (UK)
EATON Samuel.
'Exile' arrival  Sep 1847 Port Phillip/Victoria on the JOSEPH SOMES
Source  The Pentonvillains.  Ian Wynd.

EATON Samuel
Marriage  1861  St James, Melbourne
Index and partial transcript of manuscript held at the State Library of Victoria.
Author/compiler  William Alfred HALL.   Page#31/1460

EATON Samuel
Gazetted  19 Apr 1864  Victorian Government Gazette Pge#907
Gazette item sub title heading: Shareholders Australasia Gold Mining Co

EATON Samuel.
Gazetted 5 Nov 1869  Geelong. Vic
Victoria Government Gazette  Page#1774
Comment - Licence forfeited

EATON Samuel
Gazetted  8 Apr 1870  Geelong
Victoria Government Gazette Page#576
Comment - Cancellation of Licenses Under the 42nd Section

EATON Samuel.
Gazetted 26 Jan 1872  Ballarat Vic
Victoria Government Gazette  Pge#172
Comment - Gazette item sub title heading: Crown Grants and Leases Pay Office Ballarat

EATON Samuel.
Gazetted 28 Mar 1873  Elaine, Vic
Victoria Government Gazette  Pge#552
Comment - Gazette item sub title heading: Shareholders Perseverance Quartz Mining Co

EATON Samuel 49 years  Married  Born Dorsetshire
Hospital record  Date 29 Oct 1874
Place Elaine [residence]
Occupation Miner.
How long in colony - 26 years
Religion Church of England
Source - Ballarat Base Hospital, Victoria: Admissions Register 1856-1913 index.
Comment Name of Recommender or remarks G Smith

Cando

 
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Thursday 10 August 17 08:49 BST (UK)
Hi Cando,
  Thank you very much. How wonderful that you have found all this information!! Is there a way that I can access the details on line?
Mary
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: cando on Thursday 10 August 17 10:47 BST (UK)
I have taken this information from my own resources however the Victorian Government Gazette is online but you will find no further information other than I have posted.  Don't be too excited by the shareholdings in gold mining companies.  There were thousands of companies registered. 
http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/

Cando
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 10 August 17 11:15 BST (UK)
There are a number of entries for Samuel EATON on Trove in Victoria, some related to gold mining, and a couple where he is in trouble with the law, though it would appear the prosecution did not proceed -
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87997163

Probably easiest to put his name "Samuel Eaton" in the search box and limit to Victoria.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22samuel+eaton%22&sortby=dateAsc&l-state=Victoria

I've been interested in this thread and wasn't entirely convinced the Samuel EATON death record in Vic was your Samuel (as the ages are a bit out, I think the record of his trial or transportation - not sure which - says age 20 in either 1845 or 1847, so born c1825-7). There are others of the same name in Australia at the same time period, but Cando's record of hospitalisation in 1874, occ miner, in colony 26 years certainly looks right!  :D

sorry - modified to add - should have read closer, Ros already gave you the link to his aborted prosecution in reply #5
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: cando on Thursday 10 August 17 12:07 BST (UK)
I do find it frustrating when people don't read all the information on the thread, don't contribute any information and just offer opinions.

I've spent hours searching through my resources. 

Maddy don't you think that others haven't searched TROVE?

What it is about the following death that you doubt....taken from Vic bdm website but the site is down at the moment for maintenance.

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From Victorian BDM https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

Death 1887 Samuel EATON, parents names not listed, age 66, place of death Narracan, spouse Elizabeth SHEARING reg 14886
Ros

I have my own resources and don't use subscription only websites whose indexes are full or errors and omission.

Off to bed and hopefully in a better frame of mind tomorrow.

Cando
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: marypeaton on Friday 11 August 17 20:11 BST (UK)
I am very grateful to Cando for the information. The marriage and death certificates verify that it is our Samuel. As to the discrepancy in the ages, that stems from England. In the 1841 census he is 15, but ages were rounded up or down. I have the baptismal record at Canford Magna as 2nd November 1823. His arrest record puts him as 18 in 1845. He must have been 21 or 22, perhaps he gave a younger age to hope for leniency.  The Pentonville Prison record lists his father as Geo. Eaton, shoe maker of Wimbourne as does the wedding certificate in 1861. This concurs with our family history, so we are certain that it is the same person.

Mary     
Title: Re: Samuel Eaton
Post by: judb on Sunday 13 August 17 01:02 BST (UK)
Great outcome, Mary.  So nice to see someone found!

Judith