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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: boscoe on Tuesday 08 August 17 05:30 BST (UK)
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Records on my descendant take me back to 1801. Can anyone find anything on the family before that time?
William Jackson born Lenton, Notts
died. unknown, probably 1860
wife Sarah Wright born 1801 Bulwell, Notts
married 1825, probably
died unknown
children Eliza 1829
Hannah [Nan] 1831
George born 1833 Lenton [my direct descendant]
died 1917 Plaistow Green [based on postcard]
Elizabeth 1837
William 1839
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Might be wise to confirm the "probablys" and "unknowns" before trying to venture further back.
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Hi
Going from the information you have given I think this is the family you refer to in 1841 Lenton
Will Jackson 40 Not born in County
Sarah 40
Eliza 12
Han 10
George 8
Elizabeth 4
William 2
Rest of family born Nottinghamshire
HO107 /858 Bk9 f31 p7
The 1851 gives Williams place of birth as Thoresby, Lincolnshire and age as 44, Sarah is also 44 - and there are 3 more children
John 9
Charles 5
Tresa 2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6V-PDZ
Where do you get the Surname for Sarah as Wright :-\
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This marriage would fit your dates :-\
William Jackson
Sarah Hall
16 May 1826
St Anthony, Lenton
wit Thomas Brownlow & William Shippam
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGGV-985
Baptism for a Sarah Hall in Bulwell 1806
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George born 1833 Lenton [my direct descendant]
died 1917 Plaistow Green [based on postcard]
There is no death in Bakewell reg district which covers Plaistow Green after 1911 for a George Jackson of the right age. There is one in Belper RD this is the area it covers http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/belper.html
Deaths Jun 1917
Jackson George age 84
Belper RD 7b 718
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Derbyshire Burials
George Jackson
Born 1833
Buried 7-4-1917 Clay Cross
Death place Plaistow Green
Derbyshire Registrars Death Index has death at Ripley
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The children of the family above were baptised at Arnold St Mary; William was shown as a labourer and the abode for most of them was Bestwood Park.
All baptisms to William and Sarah Jackson at Arnold St Mary:
1827 08 05 Mary Ann
1829 05 13 Eliza
1833 02 17 George Thomason
1835 03 22 Edmund
1837 04 30 Elizabeth
1839 03 24 William
1844 04 14 Thomas
1846 09 23 John
1846 09 23 Charles
1849 04 18 Theresa
Burials at Arnold St Mary:
1836 12 30 Edmund JACKSON age 2 abode Bestwood Park
1846 06 09 Thomas JACKSON age 2 abode Bestwood Park Lenton Parish
1848 03 01 Henry JACKSON age 10w abode Bestwood Park
1859 08 21 William JACKSON age 51 abode Bestwood Park Lenton Parish
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1871 - I suspect Charles Jackson is in Arnold, the household consists of:
Sarah Widnall, age 67, b Arnold
Thomas Blackburn, age 25, son in law
Thirza Blackburn, age 22, daughter
and Charles - who is apparently Sarah's grandson.
Now Thomas Blackburn m Thirza Jackson in Notts St Mary in 1870 - I'd guess this is "Theresa" Jackson. Sarah JACKSON m Robert WIDNAL at Basford St Leodagarius in 1862. Robert Widnal was buried in Arnold in 1868, age 64.
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The 1862 Marriage is on FreeREG but no details are show, ages/marital status/Fathers names etc.
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I can't find a definite birth registration for these children at all - I thought I'd concentrate on Theresa/Thirza as that's the most distinctive name, but there's no sign of her that I can see.
If we could find that, we could check mmn on the GRO site but as it is ---
Am I going blind??
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Thank you all for your fine effort. First some questions:
1. where is Anthony St Mary?
2. William buried in 1859 would make him 58 not 51 as recorded. Their mistake?
3. Who is Henry, buried? I suppose a relative of little interest to me.
Finally, what do you mean "probablys" and "unknowns"?
Now I'll tell you why I want to go back beyond 1800. William is my g.g. grandfather and George my great grandfather on my grandmother's and mother's side. I found George leafing thru the parish books and William in George's censuses at Portland street in my 1984-85-86 summer visits to England. I was more interested in life then and personalities and whatever then as I could dig up to turn names into something more than cardboard figures. And, to a degree, I did. I eventually wrote my genealogy of 100 pages with 50 pages of photos.
This birthday my children gave me a DNA test. One startling thing stood out from the expected English blood back more than 20,000 years. In the 1660-90 period Mongolian blood entered. That's when the Tartars were running around eastern Europe. Counting generations forward that gives me about 1%. The only one family plausible is Jackson who appears in 1801 but is a blank before then. If someone from the continent came into England in the 1700s, is there any record of them in that age? Finding William's parents would be quite interesting.
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"Thank you all for your fine effort. First some questions:
1. where is Anthony St Mary?
2. William buried in 1859 would make him 58 not 51 as recorded. Their mistake?
3. Who is Henry, buried? I suppose a relative of little interest to me."
1. St Anthony and St Mary are the names of the Churches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_Church_of_St_Anthony,_Lenton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary%27s_Church,_Arnold
2. Age at death can very often be wrong, depends on the knowledge of the person registering it, both the Death registration and the burial record have his age as 51.
3.Henry was buried aged 10 weeks, his abode Bestwood Park, is of interest, as the family were residing there on the 1851 census. Any and all little clues are of interest, as they can turn out to be very valuable later on.
"Finally, what do you mean "probablys" and "unknowns"?"
Your words in the opening question
"William Jackson born Lenton, Notts
died. unknown, probably 1860
wife Sarah Wright born 1801 Bulwell, Notts
married 1825, probably
died unknown"
Baptism St Firmin Church, Thurlby by Bourne
William Jackson born 29 May 1807 baptised 14 June 1807
Parents William & Mary
( Thurlby?? Thorsby??)
Also, as has already been asked. Where did you get the surname Wright from for Sarah?
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Hi Annie65115,
No you are not going blind as I cant find anything either ::)
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2. William buried in 1859 would make him 58 not 51 as recorded. Their mistake?
Well, he is shown as being 40 in 1841, and 54 in 1851, so we don't know (at this point) just when he was born.
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From a distant cousin in Canada whose name is Jackson. I think your research saying Hall sounds more reliable to me. Thanks.
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Many thanks for the parents names. I was hoping one might be named Genghis. The next step for me, I guess, is to head over to the Mormon Library and see if they have any program to find these parents named William and Mary.
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Thanks for your effort. At least you gave me Thirza's name origin. My Thirza is William's granddaughter and my grandmother, not a very nice person. That family had so many secrets. A granddaughter named Jackson sent me a copy of her grandfather's newspaper death notice in Canada. He is referred to as "brother" of... She could not understand it. Many years ago after my research I guessed that he was illegitimate, confirmed by my elderly mother. No one in that family admitted it. I had to tell the cousin. So not finding names, Annie, is not surprising. I suspect that some people then just didn't register them.
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It fits it quite well. And many thanks.
Do/Can you have anything on Sarah Hall? b. date d. date, etc. ?
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Rosie gave you her baptism on reply no 3....