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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Yasmina4 on Tuesday 08 August 17 23:33 BST (UK)
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Could someone trace back a family with the following given information.
Samuel moreton , cobbler and methodist married margaret holland catholoc 1787 liverpool. Son samuel holland moreton birth 1794. Married agnes bell 1838. Daughter of joiner henry bell. Agnes was one of 21 children. (20 girls and one boy).
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Could someone trace back a family with the following given information
No details given of Samuels birthyear or birthplace
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You switch between the Morton spelling in your heading and Moreton in your post. Samuel Holland Moreton (this spelling) married Agnes Bell at St Nicholas, Liverpool on 24 Feb 1838. They were widower and spinster, both of full age.
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Agnes was born abt 1795-7 in Liverpool, according to the censuses and her 1873 death registration in Liverpool.
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Samuel Morton (note spelling) married Margaret Holland 3.7.1787 by licence at St Nicholas Liverpool.
Both are shown as "of the parish of Liverpool"
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Interested in ancestors prior to samuel moreton/morton cobbler who married margaret holland 1787. Also curious about margarets surname holland.
The name spelling morton/moreton seems to have changed happily from one to other at will.
Samuel holland moreton was an upwardly mobile gent born 1794. Activities as money lender solicitor wapentek court wirral area.
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You switch between the Morton spelling in your heading and Moreton in your post. Samuel Holland Moreton (this spelling) married Agnes Bell at St Nicholas, Liverpool on 24 Feb 1838. They were widower and spinster, both of full age.
Thank you for that. I did think the marriage of samuel was late and wondered if there had been a previous marriage with offspring.
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Interested in ancestors prior to samuel moreton/morton cobbler who married margaret holland 1787. Also curious about margarets surname holland.
You have not answered my question in reply 1
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Could someone trace back a family with the following given information
No details given of Samuels birthyear or birthplace
No i have no idea . One can never assume. I feel that he was a liverpool man but he may have come from timbuckto.
Thank you for your quick response
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I feel that he was a liverpool man but he may have come from timbuckto
Without a birthplace/birthyear - how would you know whether you had the right person if you found a baptism etc on FS?
If we assume he was a bachelor when he married Margaret and assume a birthyear in the 1760's - there is this entry on FS
Name Samuel Morton
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Aug 1765
Christening Place SAINT MARY,BURY,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date 20 Jul 1765
Father's Name James Morton
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I feel that he was a liverpool man but he may have come from timbuckto
Without a birthplace/birthyear - how would you know whether you had the right person if you found a baptism etc on FS?
If we assume he was a bachelor when he married Margaret and assume a birthyear in the 1760's - there is this entry on FS
Name Samuel Morton
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Aug 1765
Christening Place SAINT MARY,BURY,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date 20 Jul 1765
Father's Name James Morton
Thats useful. Thank you.
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I feel that he was a liverpool man but he may have come from timbuckto
Without a birthplace/birthyear - how would you know whether you had the right person if you found a baptism etc on FS?
If we assume he was a bachelor when he married Margaret and assume a birthyear in the 1760's - there is this entry on FS
Name Samuel Morton
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Aug 1765
Christening Place SAINT MARY,BURY,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date 20 Jul 1765
Father's Name James Morton
Ive forgotten how to pm . I have some information that may be of interest
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Best to post it here for continuity purposes
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A samuel morton born 1765 england shipped out on the lima emigrating to usa 1820. Wonder if its the cobbler chappie
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There is a will for a JOHN HOLLAND, yeoman, of Torbuck (near Huyton) for 1787, proved in 1831.
This will (1831) 'features' SAMUEL HOLLAND MORETON.
I think Margaret would have been John's daughter.
You can see the will via FamilySearch catalogue.
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Oh thats brilliant information.
Thank you
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First wife of Samuel Holland Moreton was Rebecca Davies, married by license St Nicholas, Liverpool
22 February 1830.
His description batchelor/Gentleman, Rebecca was a spinster.
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Rebecca was buried 23 July 1831 St James Toxeth age 39 wife of Samuel Holland Moreton.
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Thank you.
Have you investigated the wapentec scandal.
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Marriage licences for the Diocese of Chester are on Find my Past. The free search indicates a number that would be of interest. To search go to Birth deaths and marriages and then search under Cheshire marriage bonds and allegations.
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Thank you.
Are you a distant relative?
I am descended from catherine moreton who married william dodd wheelwright. Daughter or sister of samuel holland moreton .
I havnt looked at my notes for some time.
Anyway catherines brother samuel moreton resurected the wapentec court and made and lost money over it.
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The Lancashire Online Parish Clerks site has a baptism in Liverpool for a Catherine Morton, daughter of John (wheelwright) and Jane, 1824. Also James, Margaret, Jane and Thomas.
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Thats very useful information.
Thankyou