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Title: Family of William Bell
Post by: levley on Friday 11 August 17 03:30 BST (UK)
I am searching for the family of William and Jane Bell ( nee Palmer ) married in 1785 in Lincolnshire
England

Levley
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: chempat on Friday 11 August 17 08:14 BST (UK)
Do you mean parents or children of them, how did you come to this marriage, and which part of Lincolnshire?

Thank-you
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 11 August 17 08:39 BST (UK)
The marriage was 16 May 1785 at Waddington.

The witnesses were Thomas PALMER and Silvester BELL

(FreeREG)

Very likely the Silvester BELL who married at neighbouring Bracebridge in 1788.

However, I agree with chempat that more info is needed. :)
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: solidrock on Friday 11 August 17 08:49 BST (UK)
These maybe their children.....

Elizabeth Bell. baptised 03 Jul 1789. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Henry Bell. baptised 23 Jan 1791. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Sarah Bell. baptised 19 Oct 1792. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Jane Bell. baptised 13 Feb 1795. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 11 August 17 09:46 BST (UK)
These maybe their children.....

Elizabeth Bell. baptised 03 Jul 1789. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Henry Bell. baptised 23 Jan 1791. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Sarah Bell. baptised 19 Oct 1792. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

Jane Bell. baptised 13 Feb 1795. St Andrew. Timberland.  father William.  mother Jane.

No, I think not ...

Those are (in all probablity) the children of William BELL and Jane SHACKLETON who married at Timberland in 1789.
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: dcbnwh on Friday 11 August 17 10:08 BST (UK)
A Jane Palmer, daughter of Amos and Ann, was born in Waddington on 9th October 1763 and baptised on 14th November.

Amos Palmer and Ann Ash, both servants, married  in Waddington on 9th February 1753.

Other children of Amos and Ann at Waddington:-
Mary - born and baptised on 23 Apr 1754
William - born on 26 Jun 1757 and baptised on 24 Jul
Thomas - born on 30 Oct 1759 and baptised on 16 Nov
Ann - born on 24 May 1765 and baptised on 16 Jun
Elizabeth - born on 07 Aug 1767 and baptised on 30 Aug

Burials at Waddington:-
Amos Palmer, 68, on 09 Jun 1796
Ann Palmer, age 61, on 03 Jun 1792

The only Ann Ash with a date that fits was baptised on 25th April 1731 at Leadenham, 9 miles away, daughter of Thomas and Jane. Possible marriage to Jane Gibson at Barrowby in 1723

David
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: levley on Saturday 12 August 17 10:57 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help. I am more confused than ever.
I was given information that William Bell and Jane Palmer who married in Waddington had a son Thomas  born in Bracebridge 1797.and is my 2x Gt Grandfather.

However I am not sure that the above information is in fact my Bell family and was trying to test it.

I know that my Thomas Bell b.1795 married Lucy Goulding b.1805 in 1824 in Saxilby.

I have not been able to find Parish records of the birth of my Thomas Bell to verify his parents.

Hope this helps,

Levley

Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 12 August 17 11:29 BST (UK)
There was a Thomas BELL bap in Waddington 10 Oct 1799, son of Thomas and Eleanor

https://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=616603&iid=195411

Was your man the widower in Potterhanworth in 1851? (53, born Waddington)


I see the 1851 census at Saxilby says Thomas BELL (husband of Lucy) was born at Bishop Norton.

This seems to move the goalposts a bit! ;)
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 12 August 17 14:44 BST (UK)
deleted wrong Family
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 12 August 17 15:28 BST (UK)
If this is them in 1851 yes Geoff E is correct

1851 Census
Saxilby, Lincs
Thomas Bell, 52
Lucy Bell, 45
Elizabeth Bell, 14
Norris Bell, 10
Myra Bell, 8
Mary Bell, 5
Charles Bell, 3

Something strange;
BELL, MYRA, Mothers mn   HOLMES***
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in GAINSBURGH UNION  Volume 14  Page 351

FANNY 1851 has Mother as GOULDING
Cant find Norris's Birth Reg.
Charles 1847 has Mother as Goulding

Looks to me that Thomas a Widower at 1824 Marriage.

There are earlier Baptisms Saxilby to THOS/ELIZA
Ann 1817
Rebecca 1819
1st Marriage was to Elizabeth DENMAN 19 May 1817
Elizabeth was buried 19 Feb 1822 age 24, Wife of Thomas
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 12 August 17 15:59 BST (UK)
Great find Trish...I was put off by the fact that in Thomas's second marriage it didn't say he was a widower  ::) The witnesses to his first marriage where Thomas Capes and John Dickinson...on his second marriage the witnesses were George and John but both surnames are illegible.
Carol
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 12 August 17 19:30 BST (UK)
Something strange;
BELL, MYRA, Mothers mn   HOLMES***
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in GAINSBURGH UNION  Volume 14  Page 351

That Myra BELL was born at Fillingham, apparently dau of Elijah and Ann (in Fillingham in 1851).

Not to be confused with

Births Dec 1842
BELL    Mira        Lincoln    14   432 (mmn GOULDINGS)

;)
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: levley on Sunday 13 August 17 03:50 BST (UK)
Yes Geoff E & trish1120, that is my Thomas Bell and his family. It is his parents I would like to find.
 A first marriage is a surprise, thanks Treetotal, but still no father's name.

Norris Bell ( Sargent Major ) is my link b.1840, baptised 3/1/1841 Saxilby. d. 1890 wellington NZ

Far too many Bells in Lincolnshire !!!!

Many thanks to you all,

Levley
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: chempat on Sunday 13 August 17 07:36 BST (UK)
Trish,

This is Norris, in case he does not show elsewhere:

Norris Bell  Baptised 3rd January 1841 at Saxelby, Lincoln, England
Father  Thomas Bell   Mother   Lucy
FHL Film Number:   1450478
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 13 August 17 14:17 BST (UK)
Thanks chempat. I had found all of the Baptisms of Thomas/Lucys Children on FreeREG but coud not find a birth reg for Norris.
Also missed the Myra birth rego, Mother Gouldings Geoff E.

How common would Myra/Mira be as a christian name in that time frame?
I have not come across it very often.


FreeREG has Bishop Norton Baptisms in the right time frame c 1796 but no Thomas.

His Death Reg 1854 has him age 56




Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: stclemens on Sunday 29 October 17 07:52 GMT (UK)

Levley,
 
I am also a descendant of William1756 and Jane1762.

Norris1841 (who ended up in Wellington NZ) was my Great Grandfather, and has colonial descendants in Africa and Australia as well as NZ.

As far as I can tell, the parents of William1756 were Jonathan and Anne (Parker) who married in Westborough in 1755 and lived in Doddington parish.

I have only just joined rootschat  (after seeing your messages). Like to make contact?

Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: levley on Wednesday 01 November 17 04:03 GMT (UK)
Check your email inbox.
Have sent you a personal message.

Levley
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 01 November 17 08:16 GMT (UK)
Check your email inbox.
Have sent you a personal message.

stclemens will not be able to reply - nor will you be able to send him/her another message - until he/she has made another post or two on the board.  :-\
Title: Re: Family of William Bell
Post by: levley on Thursday 02 November 17 00:42 GMT (UK)
 Thanks Geoff-E. Hope I have not lost this contact.

Levley