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Title: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Friday 11 August 17 14:20 BST (UK)
Hello All
I am looking for the parents of Robert Davies born 1854 in Denbigh, his father's was Edward Davies according to his Marriage Certificate.
Sorry this is all I have.

Thanks
Allan.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 11 August 17 14:29 BST (UK)
What other info is on the marriage cert please?
Spouses name,occupations for Edward and Robert,witnesses,etc...

Maureen
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 11 August 17 14:32 BST (UK)
Do you have Robert on any censuses?

This could be him in 1871:
At Llandymon, Merionethshire

Davies, Edward  Head  M  41  Quarryman  b Llangollen, Denbighshire
Davies, Jane  Wife F  43  b Glyndyfrdwy, Merionethshire
Davies, Robert  Son  M  17  Flagstone Cutter  b Llantysilio, Denbighshire
Davies, Margaret  Daughter  F  12  b Llangollen
Davies, Jane  Daughter  F  9  b Llangollen
Davies, Amelia  Daughter  F  7  b Llangollen
Davies, Richard  Son  M  4  b Llangollen
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Friday 11 August 17 14:33 BST (UK)
Spouses name was Annie Williams , Edward was a seaman, the witnesses were Members of the Williams family,  the family lived in Bootle, Lancashire.
Thanks for you reply.
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Friday 11 August 17 14:34 BST (UK)
Do you have Robert on any censuses?

This could be him in 1871:
At Llandymon, Merionethshire

Davies, Edward  Head  M  41  Quarryman  b Llangollen, Denbighshire
Davies, Jane  Wife F  43  b Glyndyfrdwy, Merionethshire
Davies, Robert  Son  M  17  Flagstone Cutter  b Llantysilio, Denbighshire
Davies, Margaret  Daughter  F  12  b Llangollen
Davies, Jane  Daughter  F  9  b Llangollen
Davies, Amelia  Daughter  F  7  b Llangollen
Davies, Richard  Son  M  4  b Llangollen

I have Robert on 1901 Census living in Bootle Lancashire.
Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 11 August 17 15:08 BST (UK)
For those trying to help;

For Census in Lancs Robert is born;
1891 c 1851 - Llangar, Denbighshire
1901 c 1854 Denbigh, Denbighshire

1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Friday 11 August 17 15:10 BST (UK)
For those trying to help;

For Census in Lancs Robert is born;
1891 c 1851 - Llangar, Denbighshire
1901 c 1854 Denbigh, Denbighshire

1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner

Thanks Trish.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 12 August 17 12:16 BST (UK)
Hopefully someone can help you Allen.
Wales is not my area of expertise.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 12 August 17 13:29 BST (UK)
I have been looking  :)

Thought I'd found a possible on the 1851 in Liverpool - Robert, aged 2 (note a lot older than his wife so could have rounded age down), mother named Catherine b. Denbigh and all the children born Henllan ( a village just to the NW of Denbigh). However, not the correct father's name and he was a skinner  :-\

Nothing else looked anything like and no baptisms showing.

The Henfair would be Llanfair - see Genuki. Aalso Llangar* is in Merionethshire.

* but if derived from a transcription and not the image, it could be a mis-transcription of Llanfair. Could be Llanfair talhaiarn.
Gadget
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Saturday 12 August 17 13:31 BST (UK)
I have been looking  :)

Thought I'd found a possible on the 1851 in Liverpool - Robert, aged 2 (note a lot older than his wife so could have rounded age down), mother named Catherine b. Denbigh and all the children born Henllan ( a village just to the NW of Denbigh). However, not the correct father's name and he was a skinner  :-\

Nothing else looked anything like and no baptisms showing.

Thanks for your help, it's a tough one to solve.
Regards
Allan

The Henfair would be Llanfair - see Genuki. Aalso Llangar is in Merionethshire.

Gadget
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 12 August 17 13:32 BST (UK)
I added ~



The Henfair would be Llanfair - see Genuki. Aalso Llangar* is in Merionethshire.

* but if derived from a transcription and not the image, it could be a mis-transcription of Llanfair. Could be Llanfair talhaiarn.

Gadget
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 12 August 17 13:35 BST (UK)
Have either of you got the full census ref for the 1891 that you quote - it will save me trawling through index.

Added - in the olden days of RootsChat, we were encouraged to give full refs and details of census info - it seems that a bit of shorthand has crept in  :-X
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Saturday 12 August 17 13:36 BST (UK)
Have either of you got the full census ref for the 1891 that you quote - it will save me trawling through index.

Sorry I haven't if it's too much trouble don't worry about it.

Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 12 August 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Have either of you got the full census ref for the 1891 that you quote - it will save me trawling through index.

Sorry I haven't if it's too much trouble don't worry about it.

Allan

Have you not even got the full details - tis your request after all  ::)
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Saturday 12 August 17 13:39 BST (UK)
Have either of you got the full census ref for the 1891 that you quote - it will save me trawling through index.

Sorry I haven't if it's too much trouble don't worry about it.

Allan

Have you not even got the full details - tis your request after all  ::)

Sorry I haven't got details of the 1891 Census.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 12 August 17 13:50 BST (UK)
Census ref is RG12/2971/7/7

It's not Llangar. It's either Llanfair or Llanfor.  My hunch is that it's Llanfair Talhaiarn.

Have you any details of the 1911 - or did he not survive?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Saturday 12 August 17 13:57 BST (UK)
Census ref is RG12/2971/7/7

It's not Llangar. It's either Llanfair or Llanfor.  My hunch is that it's Llanfair Talhaiarn.

Have you any details of the 1911 - or did he not survive?

You got me on that one, I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 13 August 17 08:21 BST (UK)
Just a word about the 1861 Census if he is living in Denbigh,that census for Denbigh is missing.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 13 August 17 08:49 BST (UK)
Just a word about the 1861 Census if he is living in Denbigh,that census for Denbigh is missing.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Thanks for your interest.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 08:29 BST (UK)
ok so you say from the marriage cert that the fathers name was Edward, but what was his occupation?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 08:52 BST (UK)
ok so you say from the marriage cert that the fathers name was Edward, but what was his occupation?

Thanks for your reply, Edward was a sailor.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 09:12 BST (UK)
ok so where and when was the marriage?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 09:29 BST (UK)
ok I have now found the marriage certificate, it wasn't Edward that was the sailor but it was Robert!

Edward was recorded as being deceased at the time of marriage and a labourer

the witnesses where William and ellen cauldwell
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 09:40 BST (UK)
I found an early  census entry with Edward as a labourer but passed over it at the time. Not sure if I can re-find it.


Gadget
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 10:26 BST (UK)
ok I have now found the marriage certificate, it wasn't Edward that was the sailor but it was Robert!

Edward was recorded as being deceased at the time of marriage and a labourer

the witnesses where William and ellen cauldwell

Thanks for putting the record straight, it's very helpful in my research.
Regards
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 10:30 BST (UK)
so can we back step a bit please, how did you derive at Robert davies? what is your link, ive got to ask this seeing as the info and the way you have interpreted the marriage certificate was incorrect, and before spending too much time trying to find your info, would rather double check that you haven't misread other cencus/certificates
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 10:36 BST (UK)
so can we back step a bit please, how did you derive at Robert davies? what is your link, ive got to ask this seeing as the info and the way you have interpreted the marriage certificate was incorrect, and before spending too much time trying to find your info, would rather double check that you haven't misread other cencus/certificates

Hi Dawn Robert Davies was my gt grandfather, the family said he was born in Denbigh he moved to Liverpool and married Annie Williams, that's why I a trying find more about his family as very little is known about him.
I know his father was Edward and that's as far as I have got, as you can imagine Davies in Wales is a minefield to find.

Thanks
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 10:40 BST (UK)
yes I understand all that, but we need to start from something that is a total 100% definitely yours position, so from someone that you have a definite certificate for can you give us the details (aslong as they are dead!) cant give out living peoples details
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 10:42 BST (UK)
and yes I understand totally about the davies lot in wales! I'm one of them! mine are from llandulas abergele area tho
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 10:54 BST (UK)
possibles???

just so I don't loose them

Robert Davies

Age:
1

Estimated birth year:
abt 1850

Relation:
Son

Father's name:
Edward Davies

Mother's name:
Jane Davies

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Caerwys, Flintshire, Wales

Tre dre


 Edward Davies  37
 Jane Davies  37
 Hugh Davies  14
 Margaret Davies  10
 Elizabeth Davies  8
 Joseph Davies  5
 Robert Davies  1


Robert Davies

Age:
6 Mo

Estimated birth year:
abt 1850

Relation:
Son

Father's name:
Edward Davies

Mother's name:
Hanna Davies


 born:
Efenechtyd, Denbighshire, Wales


Tre r Llan


Edward Davies  56
Hanna Davies  33
 Ruth Davies  11
 Evan Davies  8
 Ann Davies  6
 Margaret Davies  3
 Robert Davies  6 Mo






 
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 11:11 BST (UK)
yes I understand all that, but we need to start from something that is a total 100% definitely yours position, so from someone that you have a definite certificate for can you give us the details (aslong as they are dead!) cant give out living peoples details

The info I have is deffo my line, my grandfather was also Robert Davies born 1897 in Bootle Liverpool, his parents were Robert Davies a seaman and Annie Williams.

Thanks
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 11:39 BST (UK)
Robert William davies? registered in west derby 1897
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 12:00 BST (UK)
1901 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KK-167

Annie born Llanfair, Anglesey.
Her mother, Elizabeth, born Denbigh.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:02 BST (UK)
yes I know I have seen them on that, I'm trying to determine which one it is tho on the official birth records
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 12:06 BST (UK)
The GRO Index shows mother's maiden names for almost all births from 1837!

There is only 1 Robert Davies birth, with mmn Williams, in 1897, In or around Liverpool:
DAVIES, ROBERT  WILLIAM      (Mother's maiden name:) WILLIAMS        
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 470


https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates
You have to register, but it's free to search the indexes. ;D
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:08 BST (UK)
yeah only 1 for 1897 but as found out some of the info has been given is incorrect and there are a few others that would also fit too
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 12:19 BST (UK)
Robert William davies? registered in west derby 1897

Bootle was part of the West Derby Registration District.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:25 BST (UK)
but does you man have a middle name too?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:27 BST (UK)
with any names such as this and esp once you are looking into wales itself you have to be 100% accurate, this is all to vague from the info you have given, I could help but well its getting a bit like pulling teeth to get any real info
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 12:27 BST (UK)
but does you man have a middle name too?

Yes Dawn William, Are you based in Wales?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 12:32 BST (UK)
with any names such as this and esp once you are looking into wales itself you have to be 100% accurate, this is all to vague from the info you have given, I could help but well its getting a bit like pulling teeth to get any real info

My info isn't Vague Dawn , Robert WIllam Davies born 3rd Jan 1897 in Bootle is my grandfather, his father was Robert Davies born 1854 ish, he married Annie Williams , Roberts father was Edward Davies I don't know who Edwards wife is.
Regards
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:48 BST (UK)
no I'm not in wales currently, I will be in north wales next week not far from the area you are looking for actually,

ok so if you are sure tht date of birth is correct and have the certificate to prove it, can you give his siblings names so we can try and find them going back on the previous cencus

also have you got any idea when Robert 1854 died and where, if so have you checked for a will?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 August 17 12:50 BST (UK)
1901
Class: RG13; Piece: 3443; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KK-169

1891
Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:73L5-F3Z

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 12:55 BST (UK)
Sorry, but saying "1854 ish" is vague ;D

Marriage:
December qtr 1888
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 607

Davies, Robert
Williams, Annie


On the 1901 census, Robert (Senior) is aged 47 - that puts his birth around 1854.
On the 1891 census, Robert's age is shown as 40 - putting his birth around 1851?

1891 census is Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

(Snap! Dundee ;D - but now I've typed it I am going to post it!)

Was Robert married before?
37 is rather old for a first marriage :-\
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 12:57 BST (UK)
1901
Class: RG13; Piece: 3443; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KK-169

1891
Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:73L5-F3Z

Debra  :)

Thanks Debra for your input.
Regards
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 12:58 BST (UK)
Sorry, but saying "1854 ish" is vague ;D

Marriage:
December qtr 1888
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 607

Davies, Robert
Williams, Annie


On the 1901 census, Robert (Senior) is aged 47 - that puts his birth around 1854.
On the 1891 census, Robert's age is shown as 40 - putting his birth around 1851?

1891 census is Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

(Snap! Dundee ;D - but now I've typed it I am going to post it!)

Was Robert married before?
37 is rather old for a first marriage :-\

I had thought that too esp when you consider he is 14 yrs older than his wife,  I do think it would be helpful if we could have his death date and place tho, and try and find his probate might give3 a few names on that or the OP getting the full will and again that is likely to have more info in it
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:00 BST (UK)
Sorry, but saying "1854 ish" is vague ;D

Marriage:
December qtr 1888
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 607

Davies, Robert
Williams, Annie


On the 1901 census, Robert (Senior) is aged 47 - that puts his birth around 1854.
On the 1891 census, Robert's age is shown as 40 - putting his birth around 1851?

1891 census is Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

(Snap! Dundee ;D - but now I've typed it I am going to post it!)

Was Robert married before?
37 is rather old for a first marriage :-\

Sorry I don't know if he was married before .

Regards
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 13:01 BST (UK)
It will say on his marriage certificate.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 13:04 BST (UK)
it says bachelor, but as we have found out with other marriages in the past that means nothing, even the bit about Edward being deceased means nothing really, Edward could have been alive and they had fallen out and if his new wife didn't know about his previous marriage then he could have just said batchelor
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:08 BST (UK)
it says bachelor, but as we have found out with other marriages in the past that means nothing, even the bit about Edward being deceased means nothing really, Edward could have been alive and they had fallen out and if his new wife didn't know about his previous marriage then he could have just said batchelor

Very true, I just at the deaths there are loads of them in West Derby Registration between 1901 -1920, as a matter of Interest I didn't marry till I was 36 it must run in the family lol.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 August 17 13:24 BST (UK)
1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner

Boarding with the same WILLIAMS family in 1881 and 1871:

1881
Class: RG11; Piece: 3661; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-D4CN

1871
Class: RG10; Piece: 3815; Folio: 35; Page: 15 and 16

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGT-TW1

Possible brother John there in 1871.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:26 BST (UK)
1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner

Boarding with the same WILLIAMS family in 1881 and 1871:

1881
Class: RG11; Piece: 3661; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-D4CN

1871
Class: RG10; Piece: 3815; Folio: 35; Page: 15 and 16

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGT-TW1

Possible brother John there in 1871.

Debra  :)

Hi Debra that's great info, thanks.

Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 13:30 BST (UK)
right you are going to have to go back thr all your certificates to try and figure out when his death took place

have you found him on any crew lists yet?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:34 BST (UK)
right you are going to have to go back thr all your certificates to try and figure out when his death took place

have you found him on any crew lists yet?

That is too big a job there is about of them far to many his birth cert may be easier, in 1871 he lived with the William family in Everton he is aged 20 so his birth could be 1850 at Hanfair.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: dawnkaren on Sunday 27 August 17 13:39 BST (UK)
not really as there is one that is consistently between Liverpool and eygpt, right up until the date of when your Robert got married!
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:44 BST (UK)
not really as there is one that is consistently between Liverpool and eygpt, right up until the date of when your Robert got married!


Robert Davies married Annie Williams  25 Dec 1888 he was aged 38 Annie was 26, also when my grandfather was born in 1897 his father is Robert William Davies so Robert and had a middle name.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 August 17 13:55 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for John DAVIES in 1872 to Ann ROBERTS.  Father Edward a labourer, witnesses Robert WILLIAMS and Ann JONES.

This couple match this family in 1881:
Class: RG11; Piece: 3663; Folio: 110; Page: 10

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-DGTD

Births for all the named children have mother's maiden surname as ROBERTS.  The youngest child is mistranscribed, he is Richard Nathan, not Richard William.

John's occupation varies; a Porter in 1871, Butcher when he married and Stevedore in 1881.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 13:58 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for John DAVIES in 1872 to Ann ROBERTS.  Father Edward a labourer, witnesses Robert WILLIAMS and Ann JONES.

This couple match this family in 1881:
Class: RG11; Piece: 3663; Folio: 110; Page: 10

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-DGTD

Births for all the named children have mother's maiden surname as ROBERTS.  The youngest child is mistranscribed, he is Richard Nathan, not Richard William.

John's occupation varies; a Porter in 1871, Butcher when he married and Stevedore in 1881.

Debra  :)

Thanks Debra looks like your on the right track.
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 August 17 14:08 BST (UK)
Robert Willliam and mother Annie in 1911:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWT7-8LK

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 14:17 BST (UK)
Robert Willliam and mother Annie in 1911:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWT7-8LK

Debra  :)

Thanks Debra your a gem, have you ever come across a situation where a child has not been registered or baptised?
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 14:30 BST (UK)
Not all religious denominations practice infant baptism - so, not finding a baptism is fairly common.
Neither my daughters, nor my grandchildren have been baptised.

After 1874, parents could be fined for not registering a birth.
Before that the onus was on the Registrar to collect information.
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 14:32 BST (UK)
Not all religious denominations practice infant baptism - so, not finding a baptism is fairly common.
Neither my daughters, nor my grandchildren have been baptised.

After 1874, parents could be fined for not registering a birth.
Before that the onus was on the Registrar to collect information.
Thanks for your input the reason I ask is I have a direct line who is the only child of 8 not Registered or baptised which I find odd.

Regards
Allan
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 27 August 17 14:43 BST (UK)
I think you mean that there is one child of 8, for which you have not yet found a Birth Registration or Baptism. ;D
Title: Re: Robert Davies born 1854
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 27 August 17 14:46 BST (UK)
I think you mean that there is one child of 8, for which you have not yet found a Birth Registration or Baptism. ;D

Yes been looking for 18years, during that time I have had every Birth registration checked in 1839/41 and he has deffo not been registered and and no sign of baptism either.