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Title: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: ddraigcelt on Saturday 19 August 17 14:48 BST (UK)
Hi all,
         I'd like to submit a request to look up my 2nd great aunt Miria Davies. Miria (according to 1901 census; Source Citation Class: RG13; Piece: 5011; Folio: 5; Page: 2. but could possibly be Maria) was born in Pontypridd in 1886. I can't find no census record, marriage or death records for her. I would assume she got married so the surname has changed hence not finding a death record or marriage record but I would have thought I'd find a 1891 census info for her. Her parents were William Davies and Sarah Elizabeth Davies. Any help on this subject would be gratefully received.
                                                                            Regards.
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 19 August 17 15:09 BST (UK)
What name is on her birth registration.   Have you looked for her with Sarah's parents in 1891
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 19 August 17 15:45 BST (UK)
Here is that full 1901 - plenty of siblings to help with the search

1901
25 Union Street
Sarah Davies 43 widow boarding housekeeper b Pontypridd
Miria 15
George 13
Cecilia 10
William J 8
Priscilla 5    all bn Pontypridd
+ lots of boarders (not surprising, as Sarah is running a boarding house)
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 19 August 17 15:48 BST (UK)
Is she MAry H in1891?

1891
25 Union Street
William Davies 37 shoemaker bn Llanwrst
Sarah 34
Mary H  age unclear, looks a bit like 15, but there is a mark right across it
George 3
Lilla 4 mths
+lots of boarders
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 19 August 17 16:02 BST (UK)
There is a random 3 yr old MAry H Davies, bn Ponypridd on 1881, as a niece in a household. So you may need to investigate her to see if she is the same person as the MAry H in 1891.
William and Sarah are old enough to have been married before - have you got their marriage cert? Were either widowed? In which case Mary H could be Williams from a first marriage, and be 13/15 in 1881.
In which case, Miria, must be somewhere else on 1891, as not with her parents.
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 19 August 17 21:45 BST (UK)
almost definitely Maria

Given the other names, mmn is Crockett. There's a Maria Davies with that mmn b Q4 1875 in Pontypridd

Sarah Crockett & William Davies marry Pontypridd Q4 1874
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 19 August 17 21:49 BST (UK)
The 1881 mary H is here, she's with widowed uncle Edward Crockett (31), his sister Priscilla (15) and their parents George (60) & Mary (54)
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 19 August 17 21:55 BST (UK)
sorry - just realised ages are all out, as yours was b 1886. However - still Maria!

There are two further Maria Davies with mmn Crockett - b 1883 and 1885 in Pontypridd. I can only assume the first two died (can see potential registrations) and the name kept being used.
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 19 August 17 22:06 BST (UK)
Just thinking?

Miria could also be Miriam :-\
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: ddraigcelt on Sunday 20 August 17 09:38 BST (UK)
Hi guys,
            Thanks for your replies, the  Mary H Davies you refer to is probably  my great grandmother Mary Hannah Davies. I agree though that Miria is probably Maria (although Miriam is a possibility) There was a previous daughter who was called Maria who only lived to 5 or 6 so the name was probably carried on. Can't find her with grand parents, siblins or uncles and aunts. I shall keep looking, Regards



Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: lizdb on Monday 21 August 17 11:27 BST (UK)
I think Mabel has provided enough evidence to indicate it is Maria!  And even followed up the MAry H I found with the Uncle - thus to prove the MAry H on 1891 was not actually Miria!

So the only question now, is where is Maria in 1891?

There is a 5 yr of Maria living as niece in H/H of an Elizabeth Davies in Llantrisant - RG 12 4418 29 12, who might be worth further investigation.
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 21 August 17 22:19 BST (UK)
Don't think the niece in Llantrisant is yours. Place of birth is Trealaw - someone has posted a birth cert image on ancestry of a Maria b Trealaw, daughter of Morgan Davies and Mary Ann nee Jones
Title: Re: Miria Davies Census/death look up
Post by: ddraigcelt on Tuesday 22 August 17 16:38 BST (UK)
I agree Mabel, can't find any uncles or aunts to match the ones on the census although her parents are in residence in near Pentre in 1881, Regards