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Title: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: lkbbm2 on Sunday 20 August 17 21:13 BST (UK)
Hello

Can anyone tell me if my relative died in the townland of the Moys which Presbyterian or Church of Ireland churchyard they would most likely be buried in?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 20 August 17 22:13 BST (UK)
Hello

Can anyone tell me if my relative died in the townland of the Moys which Presbyterian or Church of Ireland churchyard they would most likely be buried in?

Thanks.

Map showing location of Moys townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/carrick/moys/

Not that far from Limavady (formerly Newtownlimavady) so several possibilities there- many Presbyterians would be buried in Church of Ireland ground. Here's a graveyard map which you can filter by denomination-
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?Londonderry

Some listed here- http://colerainefhs.org.uk/?page_id=110864

Bear in mind that many families didn't have headstones ut up or many old ones do not survive.
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: kingskerswell on Monday 21 August 17 07:50 BST (UK)
Closest Presbyterian church to Moys is Largy Presbyterian Church. It has an attached graveyard. The nearest C of I is in the village of Burnfoot and it also has a graveyard. Bovevagh Presbyterian Church is also fairly close and it has a graveyard. Carrick C 0f I is also close but it is on the eastern side of the river Roe but there is a local footbridge across the river to the east of the village of Largy but car parking is sparse on the west bank.

Regards
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: lkbbm2 on Monday 21 August 17 21:00 BST (UK)
Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 23 August 17 21:14 BST (UK)
Are these any of your relatives  alive in 1826 which might help your  search if you dont know them all already.
from http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/derry/tithe-applotments/tamlaght-finlagan-parish.php#.WZ3c3a2ZP9M  The originals are in PRONI Belfast but it is a simple highly selective list 
Arthur, Samuel Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Criswell, James Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Davis, James Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Davis, John Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Davis, William Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Gilfillen, John Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Harvey, Saml. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Kerr, William Townland: Moys Year: 1826
King, Fredk. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
King, Robt. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
McCloskey, Charles Townland: Moys Year: 1826
McGonegal, Jno. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, John Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, Joseph Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, Joseph, Jr. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, Widow Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Moore, William Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Morrison, Benjamin Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Simpson, Hugh Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Simpson, James Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Simpson, Robert Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Smith, James Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Thompson, George Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Thompson, Robert Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Wallace, John Townland: Moys Year: 1826
White, Thomas Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Good luck
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: lkbbm2 on Wednesday 23 August 17 21:28 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for that but unfortunately I'm not looking for any of those names; my main interest is Ferguson - my grandad Robert was born in Moys in 1897, his father Robert I do not have a DOB or DOD but I know he was a resident of Moys from the birth of his children and the 1901 and 1911 censuses. I know his father was Joseph as I have his marriage certificate (to Annie Morton on 16.05.1878 at Scriggan Church, Dungiven) and I think I have found Joseph in the 1851 census living in Moys and married to Martha with son William.
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 24 August 17 07:43 BST (UK)
Scriggan Presbyterian church was about half a mile south of Bovevagh Presbyterian Church. The congregation was dissolved in 1904 and the congregation members were invited to join Bovevagh or Dungiven or Balteagh Presbyterian churches.

Regards
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 25 August 17 13:42 BST (UK)
2nd try ,  in case anything is useful for you.
1660’s Ulster Hearth Rolls see http://www.billmacafee.com
2201   173   L'Derry   N. W. Liberties of L'Derry   City of Londonderry   Outside Walls at the  Bishop's  Gate   Without Bishop's  Gate   William   Fergison   Ferguson
3431   1403   L'Derry   N E Liberties of Coleraine   Ballyrashane & Kildollagh   Not specified   Not specified   John   Fergisson   Ferguson

1796 Flax growers of Ireland
Ferguson           James                   Tamlaght                     Derry
Ferguson           Thomas                  Tamlaght                     Derry

1851 surviving Census fragment.  You found the  Fergusons in the 1851 surviving census fragment

1858 I didnt know that Moys is in CARRICK civil parish by the time of Griffiths valuation 1858 as earlier,  it was in TAMLAGHT FINLAGAN
so another look at
1858  GV http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ results for Carrick
Ferguson, John   Townland: Largy
Ferguson, Joseph   Townland: Ballyquinn
Ferguson, Joseph   Townland: Moys
Ferguson, Matthew   Townland: Ballymore
Ferguson, Rebecca   Townland: Largy
Ferguson, Robert   Townland: Carrick
1858  GV map Joseph Moys map ref 13 o
has modest garden valued at  2 shillings pa and modest house 8 shillings pa

I finally got map to load, I think 13A , an area whose northern boundary runs along the south side of the Glenhead northeastwards towards the Moys village, contains 13o as the 2nd dwelling in from the west end of a line of continuous dwellings, possibly labourers cottages..   Sadly the dwellings have gone and a long barn built southwards down the road that the dwellings ending 13p or 13q ran into.on their side that’s points SW ards .   

PRONI Valuation Revision Books continues above see https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/ImageResult.aspx
Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/31/24B (1864 - 1882)
Joseph Ferguson still there and was checked in 1880
VAL/12/B/31/24C
he’s there until 1897 where he is crossed out and Mary Anne Ferguson replaces him
in VAL/12/B/31/24D (1899 - 1915)
13Aa previous tenants Marcus Anderson >1901and Joseph Nichol 1906 crossed out and replaced with Robert Ferguson <1907 slightly bigger garden and dwelling
Mary Anne is still at 13o, so was Robert living with his aunt beforehand
in VAL/12/B/31/24E (1916 - 1929)
Mary Anne is replaced 1918 and after vacancy  period by Mrs Moore

presumably you have tried the 1901 and 1911census  -  Moys is in the district called The Highlands
which includes
•   Ballydarrog
•   Ballymore
•   Claggan
•   Corlaragh
•   Culmore Upper
•   Dromore
•   Drumrane
•   Drumreighland
•   Largy
•   Magheramore
•   Moys
•   Sesnagh
•   Tartnakelly
•   Terrydrum
•   but excludes Moy’s three neighbouring townlands
•   Ardinarive to the west check parish for each later and for Ferguson
•   Carrick to the east check parish for each later and for Ferguson
•   Leeke to the south check parish for each later and for Ferguson
•   
1901 has
29 in Moys (The Highlands, Londonderry) all Church of Ireland  The family household in 1911 are now  Presbyterian G A     All the family could not read in 1901
Ferguson   Robert 43 53 in 1911      General Labourer   -   Married   -Annie   47 55 in 1911  House Wife   -
children
Ferguson   Annie      13  by1911 no longer living at home   -   
Ferguson   Lavina      11  by1911 no longer living at home
Ferguson   Margaret   9  by1911 no longer living at home
Ferguson   Matilda   7 by 1911 can read and write
Ferguson   Robert      4 by 1911 can read and write
{Thomas aged 8i n 1911 can read and write}   
42 in Moys (The Highlands, Londonderry)
Ferguson   Mary Ann   50   Presbyterian Cannot read   -   Not Married   -

good luck onwards
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: lkbbm2 on Friday 25 August 17 18:52 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your help this is useful  :D
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: maryderry on Thursday 31 August 17 00:13 BST (UK)
A possible marriage for Joseph and Martha.

Marriage 24-Feb-1848 Parish BALLYKELLY
Joseph Ferguson and Martha Millar
Address Moyse
Denomination Presbyterian
Occupation LABOURER and HOUSEKEEPER
Both were Previously unmarried
Father William Ferguson and John Millar
Occupation WEAVER & LABOURER
Witness Names John Finlay & Robert McFaul
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Thursday 31 August 17 15:39 BST (UK)
maryderry's possible marriage seems to hit buttons
from
Tithes Applotment Books 1823-1837 based upon the index work of the
Irish Genealogy Hub. The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast

Ferguson, William-T: Killycurragh Y: 1826-Derryloran-Derry & Tyrone
Ferguson, William-T: Tamnahagan Y: 1827-Lissan-Derry & Lissan
Ferguson, William-Tl: Ballinagarve Yr: 1825-Artrea-Derry and Tyrone
Ferguson, William-Townland: Derrylane Year: 1827-Bovevagh-Derry
Ferguson, William-Townland: Killyiclought Year: 1827-Bovevagh-Derry
either one could be the Josephs father
Ferguson, Wm.-Townland: Bovally Year: 1826-Drumachose-Derry
Ferguson, Wm.-Townland: Coolefsan Year: 1826-Drumachose-Derry
Ferguson, Wm.-Townland: Gortnessy Year: 1834-Clondermot-Derry
there are Millars spelt Miller
Miller, John Townland: Moys Year: 1826  could be Martha Millar’s father
Miller, Joseph Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, Joseph, Jr. Townland: Moys Year: 1826
Miller, Widow Townland: Moys Year: 1826
looks like Presbyterian births if recorded might be the crunch

from https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
BOVEVAGH, CO. LONDONDERRY
P. Bovevagh  these could hold Ferguson names The bride Martha Millar church might be one of the others in the locality back to Kingerswell but Largy’s existing records start 1845
Baptisms, 1818-38 and 1843-1934; marriages, 1818- 30, 1834-8, 1843-5 and 1858-1927; deaths, 1870-73; session minutes, 1826-37, 1861-94 and 1896-1956; minutes of session and committee, 1857-91; committee minutes, 1897-1939; accounts, 1857-79; lists of communicants, 1829-59, 1863, 1868-9, 1872, 1879-94 and c.1901-c.1933; seat list, c.1870; list of stipend payers and amount paid, 1871-1915, and other accounts, 1870-96.  PRONIS micro ref is  MIC1P/229
Marriage transcripts, 1761-67. In Presbyterian Historical Society
Title: Re: Moys, County Derry, Northern Ireland
Post by: lkbbm2 on Thursday 31 August 17 20:55 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for this. Hopefully I'll be able to find a record for Robert that confirms Joseph and Martha as his parents.