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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Jang on Monday 21 August 17 13:41 BST (UK)
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Ancestry have recently released a new record set - "Sydney, Australia, Anglican Parish Registers, 1818-2011"
I can't access these records, even though I have a Heritage Plus sub. I've sent them numerous emails with no reply - very frustrating.
I'm particularly interested in the record for Enid Elgar Coulson, that is, if she was born in 1912.
Can anyone tell me if this is the case?
Jan
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Enid Elgar Coulson was born 8th March 1912 and baptised on the 10th July the same year. Her mother was Mary. There is the name Edward written above Mary, but that has been crossed out.
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Thanks so much, that fits with the Enid Coulson I have :-)
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Place of abode is Tuckhall ???
Ros
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Thanks Ros. That's a mystery - I can't find any Sydney suburbs that are even close. I know Mary Coulson was living in Darlinghurst when Enid was born and in Camperdown the following year.
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Page 194
Baptisms administered in the Cathedral of St Andrew, Sydney, in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1912
When baptised July 10
(Line entry number) 2455 (Jang, the docment does not say ‘Line entry number’, they are my words)
When born March 9 1912
Child’s Christian Name Enid Elgar
Parents’ Names Edward (struck through) Mary COULSON,
Quality or Profession NO remarks in ink, possible pencil remarks.
Abode Leichhardt
Reverend: C H Clark
I comment:
It is very likely that there’s ‘pencil’ comments entered by the clergyman. I ‘think’ I can read the word ‘married’ adjacent to Edward and above Coulson. There’s SIX possible words in pencil. I am quite sure that clergy would record pencil comments where they may have had information about the parentage, but were aware of no formal marriage between the couple.
Perhaps it would be sensible to send email enquiry to Anglican Diocese Office in Sydney and wait for their reply ... could take a while for that reply !
JM
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attaching hard to read pencil remarks
JM
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Place of abode is Tuckhall ???
Ros
I read it as Leichhardt
JM
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It is of course possible that the 'pencil' comments are NOT pencil comments, but bleed throughs from the other side of the page. August 4 1869 may well be a bleed through into the 'blank' box in the image I attached.
JM
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As an aside, one of my elderly rellies has phoned to assure me that C H Clark was assistant at St Andrew's Cathedral and he would be Charles Henry William CLARK, whose son was the Australian historian, Manning Clark.
cable clergy index: http://anglicanhistory.org/aus/cci/
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/clark-charles-manning-225
JM
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Yes, I just logged on again to say it looked like Leichhardt, which makes sense as that is where Mary's sister was living. It seems Edward Elgar was already married at the time (1899 to Minnie Jones). I've just found they had one child, Leonard, born 1902. Edward died 1935, still married.
This ties in with my previous posts: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=677841.0
and http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754898.54
I agree that the other comments are most likely on the reverse - they look back to front to me.
That's interesting about C.H. Clark ...
Still hoping to find out one day what became of Enid :-)
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Hi there - I've darkened the attachment, to make the faint words easier to read.
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Thanks John, I think it's definitely the reverse of the page.
Jan
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Thanks John, I think it's definitely the reverse of the page.
Jan
Yes, you only have to look at the reversed date at the end. The marks are nothing to do with the Coulson record.
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I should have also made a mirror image copy, like here:
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Aha, clever!
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It is of course possible that the 'pencil' comments are NOT pencil comments, but bleed throughs from the other side of the page. August 4 1869 may well be a bleed through into the 'blank' box in the image I attached.
JM
Yes, I noted the possible bleed through at reply # 8. :)
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Good to see confirmation in those additional images, thanks :)
JM