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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: lynne kathrine on Friday 25 August 17 01:30 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone
I was wondering if anyone understands the meaning of the following ?
vic fergr roy
vic conchie vic greasic
vic wm eir
it my understanding the possible meaning of vic = son of
totally confused and no sure, so if anyone can shed a little light on the above that wold be great, thank you xx
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"Vic" does mean son of. It is an Anglicised form. In Gaelic, mac means son and mic is the genitive form of the noun. When the initial m is aspirated it is written mhic, pronounced "vic".
Think of how Mairi (Mary) becomes Mhairi (and is pronounced "Varee").
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Lynn, possibly son of Red Fergus, son of Duncan son of the shoemaker? son of William ?
Skoosh.
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I would say fergr roy is Farquhar Ruadh .. red Farquhar
Conchie...Kenny/Kenneth?
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possibly son of Red Fergus, son of Duncan son of the shoemaker? son of William ?
Skoosh,
That sounds good to me although I would think Kenneth not Duncan, not that I speak gaelic but I can understand certain words/names & I know a 'C' from a 'D' having both in my tree (South Uist) ;D
Fergus is a variant of Farquhar (in my tree) & 'greasic' being shoemaker looks good although the word for shoemaker is 'greusaiche' but normally when referring to someone with their occupation they would also have a name first for the person, not just their occ?
Doesn't look like a good (written) translation by whoever wrote it (at the time)?
The gaelic alphabet has only 18 letters which doesn't include a 'v' i.e. 'mh' or 'bh' dependant on what it's pertaining to.
GS, It would be good to know the origin as you say as well as the era (not that I'm great with gaelic) but it does look questionable.
Annie
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Annie, the Robertson's are the Clan Donnachy (Duncan), Dhonachie is pronounced something like conchie! I rest my case! ;D
Skoosh.
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Thank you Skoosh,
I didn't know that & I may actually be descended from that clan not that I will ever find out but I have Donoghue in a vast amount of variations :-\
Annie
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Annie, just to confirm the Duncan thing, this from the indispensable "Bygone Lochaber!" An example of the patronymics of MacPhees in a Glen Dessary rental is given thus, " Duncan vic Ewan vic Conchie!" (Duncan of a son of Ewan, son of Duncan!)
Skoosh.