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Title: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Stephen Collicoat on Monday 04 September 17 02:57 BST (UK)
Can anyone assist me with some information on John Marriott of Campbells Creek Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia. John was the son of Thomas Marriott and Sarah Garner who married on December 6, 1829 in the St. Mary the Virgin church in Eccles, Lancashire. John was born in Eccles around 1832. I would love to know any details on John's siblings and when John travelled to Australia.

He married Jane Stow in Campbells Creek, Victoria on May 21, 1857. I don't know when the Stows travelled to Australia.

John died on 25 March, 1891 and Jane died on August 2, 1897 both share a grave in the Campbells Creek cemetery with two of their children  who died early. I know the names of the children. John was a leading orchardist in the Loddon region and survived a major flood in Campbells Creek and the wreck of the 'Cheviot' ship. An exciting life!
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: John Bell on Monday 04 September 17 03:49 BST (UK)
Possible arrival.

Queen of the Seas (or Queen of the East).
Arrival Date: Sept 1854. From Liverpool to Melbourne.
John Marriott. 22 (b.1832). Occ: Gasfitter. English.
Appears to travelling on his own.
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 03:56 BST (UK)
There is this possible 1841 census at Cottage Sandy Lane, Eccles

Thomas Marriot       35    
Sarah Marriot           40
Mary Marriot    10    
John Marriot    8    
James Marriot    6    
Andrew Marriot    4    
Martha Marriot    3    
Alfred Marriot    1    
John Gordon      25

all born Lancashire
HO107/543/10
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 04:04 BST (UK)
There is a burial for Thomas and Sarah at St Mary the Virgin, Eccles with this tombstone inscription:

"In memory of Thomas Marriott of Barton Moss who died December 30th 1874 in his 70th year
Also Sarah Wife of the above who died August 5th 1881 aged 81 years
Also James Marriott who departed this life September 25th 1910 aged 77 years
Also Jane Wife of James Marriott who departed this life October 8th 1897 aged 61 years
Also George Son of James & Jane Marriott who departed this life February 3rd 1893 aged 25 years"
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=148468115
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 04:13 BST (UK)
Was Thomas a brewer? There are these baptisms at St Thomas, Pendleton which match the 1841 census, all children of Thomas and Sarah:

Mary  3 Oct 1830
James 19 Jan 1834
Andrew 17 April 1836
Martha 29 July 1838 (Thomas occ - gardener)

I think this is the right family, just found Martha's birth registered    Sep qtr 1838  Salford (20/ 718), mother's maiden name GARNER.  ;)

Modified to add:
and
Alfred - Sep qtr 1840 Salford (20/726)
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 04:28 BST (UK)
This looks like them in 1851 at Barlow Moss:

Thomas Marriott    43    Gunthorpe, Nottinghamshire  (market gardener)
Sarah Marriott           50    Eccles, Lancashire
Mary Marriott       20    Eccles
James Marriott       17    Eccles
Andrew Marriott   15    Eccles
Alfred Marriott      10    Eccles
Abraham Marriott  8    Eccles (not sure about "Abraham" - gender is "F"?)

HO107/ 2218 / 254
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 04:34 BST (UK)
And in 1861 at Lodge Lane, Barton - Upon - Irwell:

Thomas Marriett    55    Gunthorpe, Nottinghamshire (market gardener)
Sarah Marriett        58     Pendlebury, Lancashire
Alfred Marriett      21          Pendlebury
Abraham Marriett  19     Pendlebury

RG09/ 2863 / 53


And in 1871:

Thomas Marriott    62    Gunthorpe, Nottinghamshire
Sarah Marriott           68    Pendleton, Lancashire
Frederick Pover    Lodger    23    Shelton, Staffordshire

GBC/1871/3970/0207


Sarah (widow) in 1881:

Sarah Marriot    80    Pendlebury, Lancashire (market gardener)
Alfred Marriot    40    Pendlebury

RG11/ 3884/36
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 05:37 BST (UK)
Based on Jane MARRIOTT's age at death in 1897 (age 73) with parents names John STOW and Jane (BANNISTER), do you think this is the family John Stow and Jane baptising these children in Margate, Kent?

Margaret Bannister STOW bap 14 Dec 1823
Jane STOW      bap 15 Jan 1826
Charles STOW  bap 16 Mar 1828
Eliza Mary Bolton STOWE bap 8 Dec 1833
Ann ELizabeth STOW bap 21 May 1837

In 1861, mother Jane and Ann Elizabeth are at Myddleton St, Clerkenwell London:
Jane Stow                 63    Liverpool, Lancashire (married)
Ann Elizabeth Stow    24    Margate, Kent

RG09/198 / 46

But difficult to find in the other censuses.  ???



Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 07:55 BST (UK)
Regarding when Jane STOW arrived in Australia, this obit says she was a colonist of 45 years, so arrival c 1852.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article9161513
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: wivenhoe on Monday 04 September 17 08:34 BST (UK)
The Will of Jane MARRIOTT, and written June 1894, names brother Joseph STOWE of NSW.

BDM NSW death
11721 / 1910 STOW Joseph B  parents John / -      @ Wickham

BDM VIC birth
1861 / 9674 STOW Charles Fitzgerald   
parents Joseph Banniste / Mary Ann (Fitzgerald)   @ LODDON

BDM VIC death
1899 / 12797 DARBY Carol
parents Jno STOW / Jane BAMSTER  80yrs  d. Campbells Creek

This second marriage for Joseph should have good information about his origins -
1868 / 1260 STOW Joseph Bannister   m. WHIMPEY Elizabeth   
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 08:36 BST (UK)


  I know the names of the children. 

There were twins  born at sea in 1856 to Jane STOWE. No father is listed.

Do you have these listed?

STOWE, Mary Eliza.
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg 56M

STOWE, Jane
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg 55M

Looks as if Mary was re-registered with slight alterations
STOW, Eliza Mary
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg13746


Death of baby Jane, also at sea.
STOWE, Jane
Father Unknown
Mother Jane STOWE
Age 2 days
Year 1856
REG 127M
Death Place OME

So this 1856 would seem to be the year of Jane STOWE's arrival.
Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 08:47 BST (UK)


  I know the names of the children. 

There were twins  born at sea in 1856 to Jane STOWE. No father is listed.

Do you have these listed?

STOWE, Mary Eliza.
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg 56M

STOWE, Jane
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg 55M

Looks as if Mary was re-registered with slight alterations
STOW, Eliza Mary
Mother Jane STOWE
Father-
Birth Place Sea
Year 1856
Reg13746


Death of baby Jane, also at sea.
STOWE, Jane
Father Unknown
Mother Jane STOWE
Age 2 days
Year 1856
REG 127M
Death Place OME

So this 1856 would seem to be the year of Jane STOWE's arrival.
Sue


Assisted Passengers
30   12   SEP   210   OMEGA   1856   STOWE, JANE
I   12   SEP   210   OMEGA   1856   STOWE, ----
I   12   SEP   212   OMEGA   1856   STOWE, ----

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 08:56 BST (UK)
On the ship manifest for Omega there is the death record for little Jane.


Infant Stowe
Died 11th September 1856
Infant
Arrival Date 16 Sep 1856
Arrival Port Geelong, Australia
Departure Port Southampton
Ship Omega

Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 08:58 BST (UK)
A John Stowe arriving June 8 1855:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article154893867

Can't be correct if Jane gave birth in late 1856

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 09:05 BST (UK)
Notes on Jane from the Omega manifest.

STOWE , Jane
A cook
C of E
Can read.
Aged 30
Gone with sister Mrs Charles D???y to Castlemaine 22nd Sept.

Sue

ADDING
Also
STOWE,  I.B.O.B. (Infant born on board)
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 09:09 BST (UK)
Notes on Jane from the Omega manifest.

STOWE , Jane
A cook
C of E
Can read.
Aged 30
Gone with sister Mrs Charles D???y to Castlemaine 22nd Sept.

Sue

Ah, is this Jane who married John Marriott coming in without her folks?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 09:12 BST (UK)
Yes,
I am seeing unaccompanied and pregnant on departure, arriving and going to her sister. Possibly Carol. DARBY.
Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 09:26 BST (UK)
Yes,
I am seeing unaccompanied and pregnant on departure, arriving and going to her sister. Possibly Carol. DARBY.
Sue

Sister's death:

1899 12797 DARBY Carol parents Stow Jno and Jane (Bamster), aged 80, CAMPBELLS CREEK

Jamjar

Sorry Wivenhoe, I see you already had this.
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 09:56 BST (UK)
Funeral notice of Joseph's wife Elizabeth:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article132827007

In Memoriam for Joseph:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article137620618

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article133877878

First wife's death:

1866 5482 STOW Mary Ann parents Fitzgerald Joh and Mary Ann (U), aged 34

Jamjar






Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 10:01 BST (UK)

Sister's death:

1899 12797 DARBY Carol parents Stow Jno and Jane (Bamster), aged 80, CAMPBELLS CREEK

Jamjar

Sorry Wivenhoe, I see you already had this.

The mother's name is transcribed incorrectly.
It is BANNISTER
These parental names match those of Jane MARRIOTT
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 10:12 BST (UK)
Births to Joseph and wives

Mary Ann:

1857 Mary Ann
1859 Clara died 1862
1861 Charles Fitzgerald died 1862
1862 Joseph died 1862
1864 Frederick Brewer died 15863/1937 STOW Frederick Brewer parents Joseph Bannister and Mary Ann MAYFIELD
1866 Jane died 1866

Elizabeth:

1869 Margaret Elizabeth died 18445/1945 WOODBINE Margaret Elizabeth parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth  MEREWETHER
1872 Sarah Eliza died 10086/1946 ARMSTRONG Sarah Elizabeth parents Joseph and Elizabeth KATOOMBA
1874 Alice Maud died 1875
1875 Harriet Ada died 31157/1969 GREGORY Harriet Ada parents Joseph and Elizabeth RYDE

NSW:

1877 John W died 1878
1879 Annie M died 20226/1948 BRYANT Annie Maud parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth HAMILTON
1881 Eva C died 24700/1960 HASLAM Eva Caroline parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth NEWCASTLE
1884 Edith M died 14052/1962 WHINNEY Edith Minnie parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth NEWCASTLE
1886 Mabel F died 39383/1965 BURNET Mabel Florence parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth NEWCASTLE
1888 Herbert W died 1970/35376 STOW Herbert William aged 82 NEW ZEALAND

Marriages:

3394/1890 STOW Frederick to JEWHURST Susan DUNGOG

1914/3589 STOW Herbert William to BROCKLEBANK Clara NEW ZEALAND

5786/1891 ARMSTRONG William to STOW Sarah NEWCASTLE

3920/1901 GREGORY Ernest A to STOW Harriet A HAMILTON

7361/1894 WADBINE Albert to STOW Margaret E WICKHAM and
7361/1894 WOODBINE Robert to STOW Margaret E WICKHAM

14906/1928 BRYANT Leonard C to STOW Annie M SYDNEY

9195/1899 HASLAM Frederick L to STOW Eva C WICKHAM

11122/1911 MCINNES Alexander to STOW Edith M WICKHAM
3969/1944 WHINNEY William MCINNES Edith Minnie MAYFIELD

4833/1918 BURNLEY Walter S to STOW Mabel F MEREWETHER
21206/1947 BURNET Lewis George to BURNLEY Mabel Florence MAYFIELD

A birth I don't have, but death:

31105/1955 HEAP Rebecca Jane parents Joseph Bannister and Elizabeth MAYFIELD

Marriages:

6424/1889 POOLE William to STOW Rebecca HAMILTON

15230/1924 GRAY Robert POOLE Rebecca J MEREWETHER

19694/1935 HEAP James GRAY Rebecca J MAYFIELD

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 04 September 17 12:27 BST (UK)
One Charles DARBY had the right to vote in 1856

DARBY, Charles, miner.
At Maldon
Eligible through holding a miners right.

Of interest perhaps

DARBY, George, labourer
At Maldon
Eligible through holding a miners right.

In the morning I will look for some burials round Castlemaine and Maldon in the names you are interested in.

Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 04 September 17 12:50 BST (UK)
The Will of Jane MARRIOTT, and written June 1894, names brother Joseph STOWE of NSW.

BDM NSW death
11721 / 1910 STOW Joseph B  parents John / -      @ Wickham


Joseph Bannister STOW bap 28 August 1831 at Margate, Kent. Mother Jane BANNISTER
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7GT-LPT
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 14:43 BST (UK)
Notices:

WOODBINE Margaret Elizabeth, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article134370575

BRYANT Annie Maud, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article140359637

HASLAM Eva Caroline Death notice 28-7-1960 Death at Royal Newcastle Hospital, late of Mayfield Sydney Morning Herald 29-7-1960

GREGORY Harriett Ada Death notice 28-6-1969 Death 93 late of Ryde and Rockdale Sydney Morning Herald 1-7-1969

HEAP Rebecca Jane Death notice 17-12-1955 Death 86 at Mayfield Sydney Morning Herald 21-12-1955   
HEAP Rebecca Jane Funeral notice 19-12-1955 Funeral late of Mayfield Newcastle Herald 19-12-1955
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 04 September 17 15:26 BST (UK)
Interments at Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle

Primitive Methodist Section SE7 Lot18: Joseph B Stow 14-7-1910 and Elizabeth Stow 3-8-1942

Primitive Methodist Section SE19 Lot 29: Margaret Elizabeth Woodbine 4-7-1945 and SE13 Lot 27Robert Woodbine 5-9-1936

Uniting Methodist Section H Lot 33 Frederick Stow 7-7-1937 and Susan Stow

Methodist Section 5 Lot 24 Sarah Elizabeth Armstrong 28-4-1946 and William Armstrong 4-2-1934 (photo of headstone)

Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens, Sydney

Harriet Ada Gregory 28-6-1969 and Ernest A Gregory 11-5-1960: http://www.heavenaddress.com/Harriet-Ada-Gregory/1198970

Ngaruawahia Old Cemetery, New Zealand

Stow Herbert William age 82
Died: 6-12-1970
Interred: 8-12-1970
Location: Row D. Block 1. Plot 125N
Headstone: In Loving Memory of Herbert William Stow died 6th Dec 1970 aged 82 years At Rest (photo of headstone)

Stow Clara age 44
Died: 9-1-1940
Interred: 11-1-1940
Location: Row D. Block 1. Plot 124H
Headstone: In Loving Memory of Clara beloved wife of H W Stow died 9th Jan 1940 aged 44 years (photo of headstone)









Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 05 September 17 03:27 BST (UK)
I think this is Jane STOW's family in 1841 at Cranbourne Alley, Margate (transcribed as STONE) though Jane is not with them.

John Stone    63 (not born in County)
Jane Stone    40 (Not born in County)
Margaret Stone 17   Kent
Joseph Stone    10    Kent
Eliza Stone    7    Kent
Ann Stone    4    Kent

HO107/468/17

and I suspect this is parents John and Jane STOW in 1851 at St Peters St Islington (though Jane's age is incorrectly transcribed as 33 instead of 53.

John Stow    73            Ipswich, Suffolk  (book binder)
Jane Stow     33    Liverpool, Lancashire

HO107/1502 / 25
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: majm on Tuesday 05 September 17 03:35 BST (UK)
The Will of Jane MARRIOTT, and written June 1894, names brother Joseph STOWE of NSW.

BDM NSW death
11721 / 1910 STOW Joseph B  parents John / -      @ Wickham

BDM VIC birth
1861 / 9674 STOW Charles Fitzgerald   
parents Joseph Banniste / Mary Ann (Fitzgerald)   @ LODDON

BDM VIC death
1899 / 12797 DARBY Carol
parents Jno STOW / Jane BAMSTER  80yrs  d. Campbells Creek

This second marriage for Joseph should have good information about his origins -
1868 / 1260 STOW Joseph Bannister   m. WHIMPEY Elizabeth

NSW Electoral Roll 1902 NEWCASTLE, polling at Wickham
Elizabeth STOW, Hannell Street, domestic duties
Joseph Bannister STOW, Hannell Street, brewer

JM
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 05 September 17 07:33 BST (UK)
I have had a look through some cemetery resources. Still looking.
Apart from the burial you mention in your original post, I do not see MI's for others of the names you have inquired about.
There is a photo of the MARRIOTT headstone.

No doubt Stephen Collicott will let us know whether the searching so far has been of interest.
He has been online a couple of times I think, so we will wait and see ;D

Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 05 September 17 07:52 BST (UK)
Eliza Mary STOW, born on board the ship Omega, married Samuel Pearce PENNA in 1881 (Reg368)
His birthplace was Adelaide, but hers is omitted from the index record.

She died
Eliza Mary PENNA
Aged 83
Death Place Brunswick, 
Parents John MARRIOTT & Eliza STOWE 
1939 /6880

 ;)
Perhaps her very early days were not revealed.
Sue
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 05 September 17 09:13 BST (UK)
Joseph was selling the Bath Arms Hotel, Campbell's Creek, October 1860:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article199604488

I can't see his entry into Australia.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 05 September 17 11:01 BST (UK)


".. John  (MARRIOTT).........survived........the wreck of the 'Cheviot' ship."

Can you give details about this please.
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 05 September 17 11:40 BST (UK)


".. John  (MARRIOTT).........survived........the wreck of the 'Cheviot' ship."

Can you give details about this please.

It is mentioned in the obit I posted in reply #8 (Cheviot wrecked in Oct 1887), but more detail here:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article225065855

Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 05 September 17 11:45 BST (UK)


".. John  (MARRIOTT).........survived........the wreck of the 'Cheviot' ship."

Can you give details about this please.

https://nepeanhistoricalsociety.asn.au/history/shipwrecks/cheviot-oct-19th-1887/

Jamjar
Title: Re: Seeking John Marriott's siblings
Post by: Stephen Collicoat on Wednesday 06 September 17 11:37 BST (UK)
Thank you for all the suggestions and leads that so many people have given to me. I'm processing all the material and will use it to prepare the third Addenda to my family history, 'The Collicoats of Castlemaine', a copy of the three reports  may be read in the Castlemaine Historical Society to whom I've donated a copy. The reports on the wreck of the 'Cheviot' that John and Jane Marriott survived makes for a really interesting read. Half the crew and passengers were lost and John and Jane were rescued clinging on to a line fired out from a cannon as the seas were too rough to launch a rescue boat. Cheviot Bay was later famous as the place Prime Minister, Harold Holt drowned. There is even a newspaper piece written by John on his experiences. While he gives the impression in his article that he and his wife who were God fearing souls fairly calmly dealt with the situation, he suffered from a weakened heart and the accident was suggested by one writer to have probably contributed to his relatively early death at 59. I hope that you find this of interest.