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Title: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Monday 25 September 17 14:16 BST (UK)
I am looking for any possible help about James Moore who was born about 1831 in Clonmel and his father, Richard Moore (cooper). James was married to Ann McLoughlin (a.k.a. Mack) on July 26th at Holy Cross Chapel, Liverpool. On all the UK censuses from 1861 to 1901 it states that James was born in Roscommon and Ann in Co. Mayo. I contacted the County Roscommon Heritage and Genealogy Company to compile a family history report and they were only able to find 3 James Moore’s born between 1825 and 1835 – none of whom fitted in with my profile of my great, great grandfather. On the Holy Cross records though it states that James was from Clonmel (not Roscommon) and Ann from Dublin (not Mayo). It also states that James’ father was Richard Moore and his mother Mary Keary (Kearly?) and Ann’s father was Peter McLoughlin and her mother was Ellen McDonough. James also had a brother, Andrew born about 1843 (shown on the 1861 UK census living with James'family and a cousin, James Higgins).

Any help would be greatly appreciated – no matter how small.
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: hallmark on Monday 25 September 17 14:52 BST (UK)
If they were RC you can check for siblings.....  http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1103
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Monday 25 September 17 15:04 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the link. I'll try and decipher the handwriting  :)
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: hallmark on Monday 25 September 17 15:20 BST (UK)
Just scroll parents column for Moore.... no need to read everything.
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Monday 25 September 17 15:59 BST (UK)
Thanks for your advice. I have decided to download the relevant years (and one year either side) and see if I can use software to enhance some of the entries. Lucky I went to Specsavers today!  8) :)
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: annclare on Thursday 28 September 17 14:32 BST (UK)
Wonder it this is a possibility?
James Moor   Date of Birth:   
        Date of Baptism:   14-Jan-1834
Address:      Parish/District:   ST MARY'S CLONMEL
Gender:      County   Co. Waterford
Denomination:   Roman Catholic
Father:   Richard Moor   Mother:   Mary Carew
Occupation:         
Sponsor 1 /   Henry Hall
annclare
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Thursday 28 September 17 15:00 BST (UK)
It is a possibility but the baptismal date would have been when James was about 2-3 years old and his mother's name was Mary Keary/Kearly (and not Carew) as shown at his marriage to Ann McLaughlin.

Many, many thanks though for your input and I will add your find to my database - just in case. I am finding that going through the St Mary's and St Peter & St Paul records are very time consuming and I am concerned that there are so many 'blank' entries that I may never find what I am looking for - par for the course I suppose.  :)
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: annclare on Thursday 28 September 17 18:29 BST (UK)
Yes it is a long shot Carew is often a variant of Carey and this is why I posted it.
regards
annclare
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Thursday 28 September 17 18:59 BST (UK)
I didn't realise that there were those variations in names. I will make a note of it for the future. I have already found out that my great, great grandmother was not a "Mack" but a McLaughlin after a considerable amount of research. The number of different spellings and variations can be quite bewildering.

Again, many thanks for letting me know. Every little bit of information I have gathered has helped me to understand the 'nuances' of genealogy.

Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Saturday 30 September 17 14:51 BST (UK)
Having pondered on anneclares post I took a further look at the records for marriages this time and widened the search to find any Richard Moore's married to a Keory/Keorly/Carew/Carey and came across the following....

10th August 1831 St Mary's Church, Clonmel. Richardus Moor married Maria Carey.

To me it seems too much of a co-incidence that anneclares find also matches up with my find.
What do other people think? (I have attached the record for consideration).
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: annclare on Saturday 30 September 17 15:05 BST (UK)
It not definite enough- veering on the probable perhaps? If you could find a baptism for his brother Andrew with same parents then you would have confirmation. I had a look for Andrew but didn't turn up anything.
annclare
Title: Re: James Moore born c.1831, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and his father, Richard Moore.
Post by: kevingmoore on Saturday 30 September 17 15:12 BST (UK)
I agree with you. I am currently looking to find anything relating to Andrew.

I also did a search of all the Mary Keory's getting married between 1815 and 1835 (92 of them) but found no Richard Moore as spouse.

Thanks again for your input.