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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Noel Steele on Friday 29 September 17 07:05 BST (UK)
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Hi Looking for more information for my family tree My late wife Alwins father Name Robert James Moffatt Born 5 th March 1912 ( i thnk or could be 1911) Whitecross co armagh Died 18 th February 1970 Wifes name Violet Moffatt nee Bradley Dont know any dates for Violet Just know she died about 1951 They had two daughters Valerie and Alwin. There could also been a son called Gilbert who died very young Thank you for your help
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No sign of him, on civil reg
Birth results for Robert Moffatt from 1910 to 1916 Displaying results 1 - 17 of 17.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ksw/
Birth results for Unknown Moffatt from 1910 to 1916 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ksx/
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Thank you
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Is this him as Robert James Moffett 5 March 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01543/1624940.pdf
Number 452
1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tullyhappy/Lisadian/307355/
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Hi yes that is Robert james Thank you
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There is a Violet Bradley born in the same area, I think it was 1913. She could possible be his wife. You should be able to find that birth on Irish Genealogy but to find their marriage and check the fathers names you will have to use the Northern Ireland records.
I'm not the best to advise on searching NI records but I'm fairly sure you can not view records online less than 100 years old.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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Thank you That looks like his wife Violet
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There is a Violet Bradley born in the same area, I think it was 1913. She could possible be his wife. You should be able to find that birth on Irish Genealogy but to find their marriage and check the fathers names you will have to use the Northern Ireland records.
I'm not the best to advise on searching NI records but I'm fairly sure you can not view records online less than 100 years old.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
That only relates to births, marriage records over 75 years old can be viewed. There is a marriage available to view on the above website for Violet Bradley and Robert Moffatt, the date of marriage was 26 March 1936, registered Newry & Mourne, choosing the 'Full' viewing option would let you see a digitised copy of the original registration.
Death records on that website over 50 years old can also be viewed and there is one available for a Violet Moffatt who died on 4 March 1951 with a reported age of 38, registered Armagh. Also a Gilbert Moffatt who died on 10 October 1941 with a reported age of 1, registered Newry.
In the birth registration for the Violet Bradley who was born in 1913, the parents were recorded as Samuel Bradley and Maggie Paul of Maydown (Eglish civil parish):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01456/1594883.pdf
The only marriage I can find for those parents' names is the following one in 1891 for a couple from Kiltoney (Kilcronaghan civil parish) which is about 30 miles north in County Londonderry:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10666/5886795.pdf
However, that fits well with this family in 1901 and 1911, the birthplaces for the children in the 1911 return demonstrating the move south:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Tobermore/Gortamney/1531283/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Mullaglass/Maytown/306979/
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That is brilliant Thank you Am going out today so will read all this when i come home Thanks a million
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Hi was wondering if there is any way that i can trace where Gilbert Moffatt is buried My late wife and her sister have tried without any sucess Thank you for your help
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H Noel.
Found these.
Robert James Moffett B.05-03-1911 Newry Armagh. Parents Robert James Moffett & Fanny Ross.
Robert Moffett married Fanny Ross 29-03-1905 @ Kingsmill Presbyterian church Loughgilly Newry Armagh. Fathers Robert Moffett & Robert Ross.
Violet Bradley B. 14-03-1913 Newry Armagh. Parents Samuel Bradley & Maggie Paul.
Samuel Bradley age 19 married Margaret Paul age 20 06-05-1891 @ Kilcronaghan COFI Klcronaghan Magherfelt Co.Derry. Fathers.John Bradley & John Paul.
Regards Mary.
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Thank you Mary
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Hi Found Gilberts death certificate but was wondering there is no mention of parents on the certificate Would that be right And is it possible to trace his birth certificate Have only probably year of 1940 Thank you for your help Noel
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Can you post link to it?
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Hi will have to wait for son to come home i wouldnt know how to do that but will get him to do it when he comes home thanks
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Hi Found Gilberts death certificate but was wondering there is no mention of parents on the certificate Would that be right And is it possible to trace his birth certificate Have only probably year of 1940 Thank you for your help Noel
Irish death certificates for that period do not list parents although sometimes you will get a comment like 'wife of John Smyth a labourer' or 'child of Robert Johnston a weaver.'
Since the birth is less than 100 years old you need to order it from GRONI.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/BirthCertificate/ConfirmRegistration
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Hi Have tried to find Gilberts birth certificate on proni but with no success Have you any ideas how else " i can do this Thank you for your help
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GRONI (not PRONI) are in charge of vital records (births, marriages & deaths) but their online database only contains births 100+ years old. Therefore, Gilbert's birth certificate (c1940) would need to be ordered from GRONI-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/BirthCertificate/ConfirmRegistration
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Have you searched here??
http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/placesearch.php?&psearch=County+Armagh%2C+Ireland&order=name&offset=0&tree=&tngpage=1&order=date
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Thank you for your help will get in touch with them tomorrow