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Hi I'm looking for any information on Samuel Burke. He is a family member... He was born on 18 August 1906 . In Derry (Londonderry) northern Ireland. He may have imigrated to Canada or America after 1935 . He may have married after he imigrated to someone with the surname smith..
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Hello, Dillcom. Welcome to RootsChat.
From birth registration: Father John James Burke, mother Rebecca, maiden name King.
1911 Irish census family was at Henry St., Londonderry. Samuel's siblings were Elizabeth, Jane, Rebecca, Anne, Alice and Mabel. Father's occupation was printer.
Are you looking for information about Samuel after his emigration to Canada or U.SA. or between 1911 and 1935?
Was he on 1940 U.S. census?
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I would be interested in this as my step=farhers' name was dpiglas thomas burke his parents were thomas an patricia, his beother were either martin or micheal his younger brother was stuart. his coudsin was rex burke he worked for hamworthy engineeringhe was very gigh up in the company a managing director i think should be able to find out fromm compznys house, he married the oewners daughter,caant remember her name, sorry.martin/micheal was a policeman and all the burke sons married ritchiewomen sisters' obviouslyparkstone poole dorset if that helps not sure of parents origins could be scots or irish
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Hi can I just ask why is the year of possible departure to the USA or Canada c 1935 so relevant, as I can see a departure of a Samuel Burke occ Labourer aged 22 from a Londonderry address in 1928?
Just thought I would bump this up in the hope more help is available you.
Seeing mention in previous post of Henry Street Londonderry a Samuel Burke 22 occ Labourer returned from Montreal to Glasgow 15th September 1928 with an address of 11, Henry Street, Londonderry?
Keyboard86
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HI i think this is my grandfather Samuel Burke he was born in londenderry and the adress is the same hi can you tell me more info <please thanks :)
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Hi all I can locate with reference to the outward voyage in 1928 is:-
Arrival 31st March 1928 Halifax on Vessel Cameronia, Londondderry to Halifax:-
Samuel Burke 18 occ Labourer Father James Burke of 2, Derryview, Waterside, Londonderry
Samuel Burke 22 occ Labourer Father John Burke of 11, Henry Street, Londonderry
Keyboard86
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2 more boys called Samuel Burke in Londonderry on 1911 census.
1. Samuel aged 8 months (so b. 1910.)
Address Strabane Old Rd.
Head: James, corn & flour-mill worker, wife, Eliza Jane (married 14 years) + siblings Eliza J., Annabella, John James, Matilda, William Doly, Hamilton & Maggie. Family was Methodist.
2. Samuel Burke aged 7 months. (so b. 1910)
Address Chapel Rd., L/derry
Head : Patrick, shoemaker, wife Mary (married 3 yrs.) + Kathleen (2). Family was Catholic. Patrick spoke Irish & English.
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Possibility the 2 Samuel Burkes who went to Canada in 1928 were cousins?
1901 census:
Aubrey St. (No. 3 Urban, Londonderry)
John James Burke (39), printer/compositor
Rebecca, wife
+ children, Elixabeth, James, Rebecca, Anne Hamilton* (5), Alice & Mabel.
All family born L/derry.
Strabane Old Rd. (Waterside, L/D)
James Burke (26), Foreman, meal & flour stores. Born Altnagalvin, Coonty Londonderry
Elizabeth Jane, wife + children Elizabeth, Anabella & John James.
* A younger son of James Burke of Strabane Old Rd. was called Hamilton. See 1911 census.
Birth registration of James Burke, above?
30th June 1875 James Burke. POB Altnagelvin. Father John James Burke, abode Altnagelvin, labourer. Mother Eliza Burke, formerly Hamilton*. Informant at birth Eliza Burke, present at birth, Altnagelvin. (A relative by name of Eliza Burke? If she was the mother it would have been impossible for her to have been anywhere else at the time of birth. ;D)
Unfortunately birth of John James Burke was probably pre civil registration, so can't say who his parents were. The Hamilton ingredient may be a coincidence.
Birth registration of a Samuel Burke:
4th June 1910 Samuel Burke, 38 Strabane Rd. Father James Burke, labourer. Mother Eliza Jane Burke, formerly Dailey.
The other Samuel Burke born 1910 was Samuel Joseph, parents Patrick, occ. shoemaker, & Mary (Armstrong) of Chapel Rd. (Same address as on 1911 census.)
Marriage 29th Oct. 1896 James Burke & Eliza Daly, L/Derry.
Couldn't see marriage of John James Burke & Rebecca.
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Marriage John James Burk & Rebecca King 25th May 1886. His father's name looks like Thomas. Hers was John. Marriage was at Ballyarnell (?) Presbyterian Church, Templemore (?) parish, Co. L/Derry. Witnesses John Armstrong and Rebecca McElhinney (?)
Searching for a marriage of Rebecca King got a result. Groom's name is John Burk in index.
Marriage of parents of James Burke (b. 1875, father of Samuel b. 1910, Hamilton, Annabella, Matilda, et al.)
John James Burke & Eliza Hamilton
1872 Londonderry q1, vol 2, p. 264
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en
The 2 Samuel Burkes weren't 1st cousins then. The fact that siblings of both had Hamilton as part of their names was coincidence.
I did wonder as well about one family being Presbyterian and the other Methodist.
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Thanks maiden story ... The Samuel Burke I'm looking for did indeed go to Canada 1928 and returned that year. My grandparents where split up during this time. My grandfather is the one born 18 August 1906. His parents where John James Burke and Rebecca king. Siblings elizabeth, John (died when he was one). Rebecca, Annie Hamilton, Mabel and violet ( died at one also) . Samuel was the youngest in the. 1911 cencus. His mum died 1929 and his dad died 1932 . The reason I believe he went to Canada around 1935 is my mum was born 1931 and her parents split up again for good in 1933 . So it is believed he went back to Canada as he was there previously
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Hi can you tell us why you believe he married a lady with maiden name of Smith, where was this information obtained from, any possibility he came over to the mainland ( Lancashire), as their is an "odd" Samuel Burke who on two records has 2 different dates of birth, one the 18th August 1908, and his death as 25th August 1906, he married a Kathleen McDonough March qtr 1939 Amounderness 8c 692
Keyboard86
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Hi keyboard ... I'm not sure on the smith. It was just told to a family member that it could have been significant.... Thanks for your information. He could have went to England .... His date of birth was definitely 1906. Did the Samuel Burke that married in England come from Derry northern Ireland .....in the wedding does it name his father ?
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Hi the wedding was in Preston, Register Office or Registrar attended, the 18th August 1908 in 1939, I have recently assisted on two threads where the year of birth, has been incorrect, wish I could offer more help, but that marriage certificate if purchased, will not tell you if he is from Derry, but will give you the name of his father and his occupation?
Keyboard86
PS re the death, the 25th August 1906 could it have been his baptism?
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Birth registration: Sup. Reg. District Londonderry. Reg. district L/derry. District City of Derry No. 1
Date of birth 18th August 1906. Name of child Samuel Burke. Born at 18 Aubery St.
Father's name John James Burke, abode 18 Aubery St.
Mother Rebecca Burke, formerly King.
Birth registered 17th Sept.
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Thank you keyboard 86 and maiden stone... Maiden stone that is indeed his birth and his dads name. His mum was Rebecca king . They went on then to live in Henry Street, Derry . Yes keyboard86 that date could have been his baptism.... I must check and see how to buy the marriage cert... It could well be him...
Dillnet check out keyboard86 comments..... We may be getting closer
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Hi if you are willing to purchase the marriage certificate ( I do hope it is him) then only use www.gro.gov.uk
Keyboard86
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Hi if you are willing to purchase the marriage certificate ( I do hope it is him) then only use www.gro.gov.uk
Keyboard86
Or the LRO at Preston.
See http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
It usually provides a photocopy of original register entry with genuine signatures of participants.
Samuel Burke may have been on the 1939 Register in the Preston area.
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Hi if you are willing to purchase the marriage certificate ( I do hope it is him) then only use www.gro.gov.uk
Keyboard86
Or the LRO at Preston.
See http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
It usually provides a photocopy of original register entry with genuine signatures of participants.
Samuel Burke may have been on the 1939 Register in the Preston area.
He is, just put in Samuel Burke no year of birth in Lancashire
Often wondered about cost via LancsBMD is it comparable to GRO?
Keyboard86
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LRO at Preston charges £10. It has the original registers from which the copy certificates are produced. They arrive in a folder.
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Thank you So much xxx
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The Samuel Burke 22 occ Labourer Father John Burke of 11, Henry Street, Londonderry is my grand father , and his mother is Rebecca king , it is the right family thank you , we are looking to see when my grandfather die and were ,and if we can find his grave. thanks for all you help
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Don't think it's been mentioned before on this thread but you can view Irish birth registrations over 100 years old (free)- much better than relying on transcriptions which may contain errors.
Samuel Burke born 18 Aug.1906-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01730/1683701.pdf
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Thank you . will check that out.