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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Rodeo on Wednesday 11 October 17 08:42 BST (UK)
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John Brown Yule (born 2 July 1872, Hamilton, Scotland), emigrated to Canada in 1908. His parents were Peter Yule and Annie Yule (her maiden surname).
I have all his passenger list records and found him in the 1911 Canadian census domiciled as a boarder at 2 Joseph Street, Toronto, Ontario, his occupation cited as plumber and his marital status as single.
The nationality of John Brown Yule is recorded in the 1911 census as Canadian, indicating that he was naturalised prior to 1915, those naturalisation records not being available online.
The only further documentation of him is a 1931 passenger record for his nephew, Peter Yule Paterson, on which he cites his his uncle, John Yule, living in Victoria Ave, Toronto.
Can anyone find him in a 1931 (or subsequent) Toronto directory?
I am unable to find a marriage or death for John Brown Yule in the Ontario records on Ancestry.
I would be exceedingly grateful for any information regarding John Brown Yule, particularly a possible marriage and his date of death in Ontario (or possibly elsewhere in Canada).
Many thanks in advance,
Rodeo
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There is Canadian WW1 Attestation Papers (1st September 1915) for John Brown Yule - 2 July 1872 born Hamilton Scotland -
Nearest relative was sister Mrs Margaret Patterson 175 Spruce Hill. Lomng Island. New York. John was occupation by trade. Served in 2nd field engineers for 10 weeks.
4 years armouries - 4 years Royal Scots Canadian.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=327558
Full digital file should be available eventually September 2017 update said they were up to the surname Robertson - so worth keeping an eye on - they are full of information.
https://thediscoverblog.com/category/digitization-2/
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/personnel-records.aspx
Sandra
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There is also a passenger list of troops returning Liverpool England to Halifax Nova Scotia Canada in 27 March 1919 on the Cedric - John brown Yule 35 Bn - dependant was a brother - returning to residence in Toronto.
Sandra
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Many thanks, Sandra. I have both of those records. My grandfather, my great uncle and my 2nd great uncle, John Brown Yule, all served in the Canadian Expeditionary Force during World War I. I'm eagerly awaiting John Brown Yule's service file to be digitised.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Peter Yule Paterson had been in Canada previously - there are attestation papers for Peter born 23 April 1897 Glasgow Scotland. Mother Margert Paterson giving the same long Island NY address. Peter was single. Rigger by trade.
7th February 1917
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=569652
Sandra
Typed - so posted. Trying to fill the time line in. ;) The 17 January 1931 document for Peter paterson was a border crossing from Canada to the USA.
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Thanks again, Sandra. Yes, Peter Yule Paterson was my great uncle (my grandfather's brother), who served in the CEF. Although Peter Paterson travelled to the US in 1931 to stay with his sister, as that passenger record shows, he eventually returned to Toronto, where he died in 1997 -- weeks short of his 100th birthday!
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Hi,
There is a Veterans Death Card for John Yule #405483, page 1200
Date of death 21-4-50, Westminster Hospital, London Ontario, myocarditis, burial Woodland
Cemetery, London, Ont. NK - Peter Patterson, nephew, 29 Tecumseh St. Orillia, Ont.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/mass-digitized-archives/veterans-death-cards-ww1/Pages/item.aspx?PageID=5121571
DB
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Eureka! That's definitely my John Brown Yule, as Peter Paterson was living in Orillia at that time.
Brilliant, DB. Thank you so much.
All the very best,
Rodeo
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Oh the wonder of rootschat ;). How quick was that?
Well done, Sandra & DB.
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Hi,
You're welcome. :) It was lucky as so many deaths were not reported to Veteran's Affairs.
You can try the London Public Library to see if they have an obituary. You have his date of death
so it should be a quick lookup.
http://www.londonpubliclibrary.ca/research/genealogy/research-request-form
Thanks josey :)
DB
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Well done - you little star ;)
Sandra
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https://londonmiddlesex.ogs.on.ca/obituaries1.html
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Thanks again, Sandra, DB and RJ. You're stars indeed.
I've just requested a copy of the obituary.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Hi,
Let us know how you make out with the obit.
Cheers,
DB
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I most definitely will.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Just following up regarding John Brown Yule’s obit, a scan of which I received literally within an hour of my request from an extraordinarily kind and efficient assistant at London Public Library. It reads:
YULE – At Westminster Hospital on Friday, April 21, 1950, John Brown Yule, of (number illegible) Gould Street, Toronto, in his 79th year. Resting at the Bennett and Pincombe Funeral Home, King at Colborne, where services will be held on Monday, April 24, at 10:30 a.m. Interment in the Veterans Section at Woodland Cemetery.
The illegible number at which he lived in Gould Street looks like 94. Can anyone make it out? ???
Is Gould Street in the electoral district of Toronto Centre?
Many thanks again to you all.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Gould street runs through Ryerson University... and Ryerson is in the Toronto Centre electoral district.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Centre
RK
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Thanks so much, RK. I thought so.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Exceptional service from London public library. ;)
Sandra
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Absolutely, Sandra. I was gobsmacked at how promptly I received the scan of that obit -- and at no charge!
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Wow, excellent service, two thumbs up LPL.
It looks like 94 to me as well. The 4 in April 24, looks similar.
Interesting, he was a resident of Toronto, yet was buried in London.
DB
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Yes, DB, I think it IS 94. I was informed that the original newspaper is not in good nick, having degraded with time, but I was sent the best scans possible.
Although John Brown Yule lived in Toronto, he was interred in Woodland Cemetery, London, because that cemetery is designated for CEF veterans apparently.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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The nationality of John Brown Yule is recorded in the 1911 census as Canadian, indicating that he was naturalised prior to 1915, those naturalisation records not being available online.
There are no naturalization records for immigrants from the UK. It wasn't until 1947 that Canadian citizenship was established. Prior to that time, Canadians were considered British citizens.
From Library and Archives Canada:
From 1763 until the Canadian Citizenship Act came into force on January 1, 1947, people born in Canada were all British subjects. Since immigrants born in Great Britain and the Commonwealth were already British subjects, they had no need to become naturalized or to obtain British citizenship in Canada.
Jacquie
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Thanks, Jacquie.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Hi,
Library and Archives Canada has just announced the completion of the digitization of their
WW1 service files.
Here's John's, click on the PDF for his file. It's very slow to load.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=327558
DB
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Hi DB
Brilliant! Thanks so much for letting me know. I've just downloaded JB Yule's service record from the Library and Archives Canada site.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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You're welcome :)