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Title: dating conundrum
Post by: Bosconermal on Wednesday 01 November 17 23:09 GMT (UK)
Hi all:
I've posted about this person a few times before so forgive the obsession. I get new information and it presents me with new puzzles.

William Riddoch's parish birth record says he was born on February 23, 1851. He is the “natural son” of Alexander Riddoch and Jean Pirie, so illegitimate. His death certificate (in Canada) says he was born on February 23, 1854. The default theory is that the 1851 date is correct, BUT:

Title: Re: dating conundrum
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 01 November 17 23:36 GMT (UK)
Can you please post links to previous threads to save duplication of effort?

Annie
Title: Re: dating conundrum
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 02 November 17 00:00 GMT (UK)
William Riddoch's parish birth record says he was born on February 23, 1851. He is the “natural son” of Alexander Riddoch and Jean Pirie, so illegitimate. His death certificate (in Canada) says he was born on February 23, 1854. The default theory is that the 1851 date is correct, BUT:

Any DC info. is open to error as the info. is only as good as the knowledge of the informant which isn't always correct.

What age was William on every other census, were they consistent & with what year of birth?

The church would have been pushing to know who the father was;

https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/kirkchurch-sessions-scotland/116/


Annie
Title: Re: dating conundrum
Post by: Bosconermal on Thursday 02 November 17 00:23 GMT (UK)
He’s 9 in 1861 (implies 1852 given his birth month)

18 in 1871 (so 1853)

24 at his marriage in June 1875 (so 1851)

28 in 1881 (so 1853)

38 in 1891 (so 1853)

49 in 1901 (so 1852)

59 in 1911 Canadian census in June (so 1852)

Death certificate in July 1914 says 60 (so 1854)

Title: Re: dating conundrum
Post by: anne_p on Thursday 02 November 17 09:19 GMT (UK)
I have found many errors on OPRs.
Banffshire seems to be among the worst offenders !
It seems that there was a rush to complete the register ahead of 1855 statutory recordings, hence many years worth of births and baptisms were entered retrospectively and resulted in errors.

I tend to agree that the year of birth would be 1852.
A father's name would not appear on the OPR entry of 1851 unless he had already acknowledged paternity.

On one Banffshire OPR that I hold, the Clerk attempted to group family births and baptisms over 5-10yrs together  and the result is a mess.
EG: 2 children, same parents, born 4 months apart and baptised in 2 consecutive weeks??

I hold the family bible which shows the children were born 4 years apart .
All further records ( marriages and deaths) concur with the bible info.