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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: california dreamin on Thursday 02 November 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Forgive me if this is known already. It was however a revelation to me! Currently trying to do some Glasgow research and in the throws of planning a trip to the Mitchell Library. I phoned yesterday in order to ask a couple of questions and was rather surprised to find out that there are a number of cemetery burial registers now available on FamilySearch.
The pathway is Familysearch >Catalog>Place (put in Glasgow and select Scotland, Lanark, Glasgow) Then press "search". From this list now select Cemeteries (39) You should now have a long list of various cemeteries. Select for example Sighthill - you'll find quite a long list of Daily Interment books. However only those with the image of a camera are viewable. Those with an image of a film canister are not. These are only searchable by date, however if you know the dates you are looking for there is a tremendous amount of information to be found. A bit of hunting about but very 'do-able'. Personally I was pleased to find many films for St Kentigerns available. Needless to say tea was late last night.
Hoping this is useful and that I am not the last to find this out.... :-[
CD
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https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bany_place%3Aglasgow~&collection_id=(2026973%202221801)
You can search by name/place on the above link(BillionGraves index , Find a Grave Index).
ev
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Hi ev
They don't all seem to be on Billion Graves, Find a Grave, memento mori etc. Certainly I found four of my ancestors yesterday and NONE turned up when I had previously searched these databases. At least there are options!
Kind regards
CD
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Thank you so much CD, I just found my Great Grandmother's burial record! I knew she had been interred at Janefield cemetery and I had even paid Memento Mori to search for her burial plot/headstone/grave to no avail. Even if there is now no determining marker, I at least know where she was placed at the time.
Cheers!
Andrea
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Thanks CD
Just marking this post so I can refer back to it when I have time as my Wife's mothers ancestors for many generations were all Glaswegians.
Mick
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Hi everyone
Thanks for your comments. I'm really pleased the information has been useful to you. I still have 3 more relatives to find and I think they are in common graves in St Kentigerns. Unfortunately for me those films which I would need to check don't seem to be viewable at the moment. Hopefully soon!
Kind regards
CD
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Hi, I understand there ws an outbreak of Typhus and Cholera between 1845 and 1850 when 2-3,000 Glasgow people perished, mostly in the Calton area. Would anybody know if they were buried in a common grave(s), perhaps at the northern necropolis and if there are records of death/burial anywhere. I cannot find anything on Scotland's People - might just be a year or so too early.
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Just to add a bit more useful info to this thread...
...if you find an image of one of your deceased family members in the Daily Interment Books, take a note of the Receipt Number (usually found in the column after cause of death). Then go to the 'Weekly Interment Book & Weekly installments made on Lairs' link (if images are available) and search for that receipt number. It may take a little searching to find the right image number (the ones I found were in numerical order) but once you find it, it will list ALL family members buried in that lair/plot!
While many of the images for the burial of these people may not be available individually in the Daily Interment books, they will appear in these images! This is the case for the Eastern Necropolis anyway so I'm not sure those details will be available for all the Glasgow cemeteries or not.
Finding this has been a goldmine for me as it has provided details of family members whom I didn't even know existed and clarified some important dates. It really is a great source and starting point for family history in preventing hours and hours of unecessary research on someone who is already dead (I mean that in the nicest possible way ;D).
So thanks again CD for sharing about this, it has been an incredible help to my family history research!
Andrea
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Hi Andrea
Thanks for your message with your additional advice. Very helpful! So glad the post has been useful.
Like you, having looked at some of the entries from other burial grounds I just the thought the amount of information was amazing.
CD
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I could wish that they had not indexed these burials using the recent (and in some cases ephemeral) local authority areas, because this is bound to confuse people who are not familiar with the evolution of local government in Scotland.
'Strathclyde', for instance, was the name of a regional authority established in 1975 and abolished in 1994 or it might have been 1995. Even while Strathclyde Regional Council was in existence, burials were never part of its remit. Burial grounds in Glasgow remained the responsibility of the City of Glasgow council, and they still are.
Also, even while the short-lived Regional Councils existed, even the Royal Mail did not use them as part of postal addresses. They retained, officially, the historic county names.
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Hi, I understand there ws an outbreak of Typhus and Cholera between 1845 and 1850 when 2-3,000 Glasgow people perished, mostly in the Calton area. Would anybody know if they were buried in a common grave(s), perhaps at the northern necropolis and if there are records of death/burial anywhere. I cannot find anything on Scotland's People - might just be a year or so too early.
Statutory civil registration started in Scotland on 1 January 1855. Before then, recording of deaths was very patchy. So yes, epidemics between 1845 and 1850 are 5 to 10 years too early.
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You might be lucky enough to find some of your cholera epidemic people in the OPR. I found one of mine & he was at the top of a page of people who died of cholera & were buried in common ground. I was lucky that his forename was relatively unusual.
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AMENDMENT!! Should have said the receipt numbers correspond with:
Daily interment books, February 1944-1995. Daily lair books, nos. 1-6141, ca. 1800-1970.
and NOT the Weekly Interment books as previously posted!
Sorry for the error,
Andrea
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Thank you CD. Just wish I had not found your post today, but I will be strong and not spend time until after I have done everything else. isk
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Thanks a lot for this information. It owuld certainly help me find out about some of my ancestors which I have been trying for a long time.
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@ Tom Wyllie, the epidemics in the East End followed the Irish famine & folk went down like ninepins. The scandal of the mass-graves in private burial-grounds in built-up areas was why the city bought land for municipal cemeteries. Will find you the article on this. Shocking stuff!
http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/1849cholera.htm
Skoosh.
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I followed the link only to find that the microfilm is not available online but at a family history centre in Salt Lake. I’m not sure why the difference.
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With regard to the Sighthill Cemetery Daily Interment books:
Can anyone confirm for me what it means when "No." "Class" "No. of Scrip" "Name of Lairholder" "No. of Lair" "Depth of Feet" and "Private" are all BLANK and there is a entry of £1.1s.0d in the column for "Interment Fees, dressed" but the last column of "Common" is BLANK
So its looks to me that the burial has the fees associated with "Dressed" but "Private" and "Common" are blank.
So what is a "Dressed" burial as opposed to "Common"? Does it mean the burial is in a proper grave plot only its unmarked? Its not a "Common" grave with multiple deceased in the one 'pit'?
He was a soldier in earlier life - would it indicate a military grave perhaps?
Bill
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Hi Bill,
I have a relative buried at Eastern Necropolis with the same information as yours in the interment book. I just thought 'dressed' meant the burial plot had some kind of decoration on it eg. flowers etc but I also found this explanation in a document that describes grave markers:
'dressed - referring to stone whose surface has been completely smoothed or otherwise finished'.
Maybe someone else can confirm but hope that helps for now!
Regards,
Andrea
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Hi Andrea, thanks for the reply.
I've heard of "dressed stones" which I always took to mean sculpted flat/smooth, but if that was what it meant in the Interment Records, then what would the difference be between a "Private" Lair (possibly with a dressed headstone) and a "Dressed" Lair?
I was wondering if it related more to the ground itself eg. dressed with some kind of 'surface' (eg. grass which gets mowed and maintained). Whereas perhaps "Common" means a plot with multiple burials where the groundsmen don't even maintain it - its "un-dressed" ground perhaps and just grows wild??
Either way, I supposed "Dressed" and "Common" are pretty much the same thing nowadays ie. unmarked. And if Glasgow City Council are anything to go by, very probably neither are maintained and just grow wild!
Bill