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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Gwen in gozo on Thursday 02 November 17 21:01 GMT (UK)
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I have a female relative aged 29 on the 1901 census as a C.C Clerk, (home town Grimsby)
Would I be correct in assuming that this stands for County court clerk and if so could she have worked at the Town Hall in Grimsby and if so would there be records held there regarding employment? Also can anyone clarify what the job description entailed and was it likely a woman would hold this position in 1901?
thankyou
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Perhaps more likely - County Council clerk.
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Perhaps more likely - County Council clerk.
any reason why more likely than the county court?
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The Clerk to Grimsby County Court in 1909 and 1919 was Alfred William PYE. (from directories)
The 1911 census however has Alfred John PYE as County Court Bailiff :-\
EDIT: Who was your "female relative"?
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The Clerk to Grimsby County Court in 1909 and 1919 was Alfred William PYE. (from directories)
The 1911 census however has Alfred John PYE as County Court Bailiff :-\
EDIT: Who was your "female relative"?
She Was Ada Davis born 1881 Daughter to the port missionary James Davis Harbour of refuge. sorry it was meant to be 1901 (typing error) I have her brothers as CC Clerks as well in 1891
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I have no proof that CC might stand for County Council but it would seem that she and her brothers were clerks very soon after leaving school (and they left the job afterwards) and I just don't think it likely that kids like that would be in court service - especially a girl!
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In my experience, C.C. in the census normally stands for Commercial Clerk, suggesting someone employed in a business environment.
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In any case, looking at the image, I’d say that the occupation was originally entered as Clerk.
C.C. (in a different hand) is the classification for 'Commercial Clerk' used by the statistician who later categorised the occupations – as with Preach. (written above) and Mus. Inst. and Paint (below).
RG13/3091 folio 164 page 39
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In my experience, C.C. in the census normally stands for Commercial Clerk, suggesting someone employed in a business environment.
Yes, I think you're right. :)
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In my experience, C.C. in the census normally stands for Commercial Clerk, suggesting someone employed in a business environment.
Yes, I think you're right. :)
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Brilliant thankyou to you both
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On that thought, could I assume that a clerk would be a well educated person? Would a clerk have had to have qualifications in such a job and was it a common job for a woman as well as men?
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Obviously, there would have to be competency in literacy and numeracy, but I doubt there were any formal qualifications needed to enter the job. School leaving age was actually only 11 at that time, I've no idea if you could stay on longer. Perhaps they were privately educated to a later age.
Perhaps Ada managed to get in because of good standards set by her brothers, I usually imagine clerks to be men. No idea if the term Clerk would include typing which was coming in at that time.
I note that the brothers had "moved on" to other trades by 1901.
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Obviously, there would have to be competency in literacy and numeracy, but I doubt there were any formal qualifications needed to enter the job. School leaving age was actually only 11 at that time, I've no idea if you could stay on longer. Perhaps they were privately educated to a later age.
Perhaps Ada managed to get in because of good standards set by her brothers, I usually imagine clerks to be men. No idea if the term Clerk would include typing which was coming in at that time.
I note that the brothers had "moved on" to other trades by 1901.
thanks