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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Ashnz on Tuesday 07 November 17 21:41 GMT (UK)
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Hi there,
I have recently made the discovery that my great great Uncle Hans Prebensen was last recorded in Taihape in May 1918 - the article here https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TAIDT19180518.2.15.12?query=Prebensen (https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TAIDT19180518.2.15.12?query=Prebensen)
He was last listed in the Wise's directory in 1917 in Aria and was not registered for the 1919 NZ election - so I am wondering if he died in the great flu pandemic of 1918?
My question is did the New Zealand Government record the names of those who died of the flu? Or did it just record the numbers of those who died?
Warmest regards,
Ashley
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Hi Ashley,
What was his year of birth? there is this death register for 1918
1918/11125 Prebensen John 26Y
Cheers Janette
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Here is the death notice from PapersPast
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MT19181120.2.2?query=prebensen
Cheers Janette
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Buried in Terrace End cemetery in Palmerston North
Surname PREBENSEN
Firstname JOHN
Gender Male
Occupation FLAXHAND
Address
Denomination Anglican
Age at Death 26Y
Date of Death 19/11/1918
Place of Death UN-KNOWN
Date of Interment 20/11/1918
Warrant Type BURIAL
Cemetery Terrace End Cemetery
Area in Cemetery
Cemetery Block 031
Plot Location 060
Plot Depth
Funeral Director THOMAS GRIGGS & SON LTD
Book of Memories NO
The funeral directors are still in business under the name of The Lychway try emailing them as they may still have the records
http://thelychway.co.nz/contacts/
Use the email address not the contact form,
Cheers Janette
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Hi Janette,
Many thanks for that, very interesting :). Hans was born in Denmark in May, 1871. John Prebensen was Han's half brother.
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I just found this:https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TAIDT19190528.2.2.4?query=Prebenson (https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TAIDT19190528.2.2.4?query=Prebenson)
So I can rule out the flu epidemic.
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I see Hans married in 1895 have you managed to track Jane his wife?
1895/2846 Jane Banfield Hans Prebensen
Cheers Janette
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A daughter
1897/10163 Prebensen Florrie Jane to Janie and Hans
poor little thing
1897/5919 Prebensen Flora Jane 3M
Cheers Janette
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Hi Janette,
I have tracked them. The whole Prebensen family history is quite a tragic story and very sad. Han's wife Jane died in May, 1917 in Hamilton Hospital - she is buried at the Hamilton West Cemetery. Florrie was their only daughter. Han's father Jens and his sister Ciliane also died in 1897. By 1919 Hans had a stepmother, half sister Annie, half brother Thomas and a brother (my great grandfather) Peter left alive. It's been a mystery of exactly when Hans died.
Do you know if NZ general elections back then - was it compulsory to register to vote?
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There is a burial - with no details, for Hans PREBERSON in Hamilton West cemetery.
http://www.hamilton.govt.nz/our-services/do-it-online/cemetery-search/Pages/default.aspx?surname=Preberson
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Jane, wife of Hans PREBENSON, is recorded on NZ Death index as >
1917 - PREVERSEN - Jane - 43 years
Still looking for date of death for Hans (under a variety of spellings of surname ::) ).
~ Lu
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Jane's death notice > under PREBENSON > seems to indicate her husband is still alive.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WT19170528.2.14
In the year following, there was an In Memoriam notice placed in a local newspaper by Jane's parents and siblings (no mention though of Hans).
~ Lu
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I wonder if the "burial" I found for Hans, above, is in fact a plot reservation.
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I have always wondered that too... It is very unusual that the record for Hans' plot has no details listed. After his wife died he moved back to Taihape.
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Hi Ashnz and John ... was about to also say I thought it may be a plot purchase at the time of Jane's death.
Ashnz .... wonder if an email to the cemetery might clarify the situation ? I know the online record doesn't carry much info ... but they may be able to tell you about the purchase of both plots and the date(s) ?
I've searched the NZ Death Index (@ ancestry) up to 1930 and can't see a death for a Hans (Johan / Johannes / etc) which might be applicable.
Might he have returned to his homeland ? (Or perhaps skipped across the Ditch, to Aus ?? )
~ Lu
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I've had a quick look at the Danish records on Family Search...they have census information up to 1930. This Hans doesn't seem to be there (There is a person of the same name, but he was married in Denmark in 1903).
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See also coverage of this topic here.........
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=604769.0
Minniehaha.
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As Hans was not listed on the 1919 NZ electrol roll (or the subsequent following elections) - I tried to find out whether it was compulsery back then to enroll to vote. Maybe he had died?
If he did die then it's place his death between May and December of 1919.
Strange he had no death certificate - I get the feeling his late wife's family (the Banfield family) - who was living in Taihape at the time - may have just taken him to Hamilton and buried next to his wife. I looked at the original burial record and in pen it is just written "buried"
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Jane's death notice > under PREBENSON > seems to indicate her husband is still alive.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WT19170528.2.14
In the year following, there was an In Memoriam notice placed in a local newspaper by Jane's parents and siblings (no mention though of Hans).
~ Lu
Hello.
Unfortunately it is my understanding that the Walter BURROW Undertaking records did not survive, but those of SCRIMSHAW did.
In the King Country, like my own here in the Waikato, there are families who have owned land for over 100 years. A look on line for social media in the area, and a request, may get answered with local information. Each area tends to have it's own 'go to' for being the local historian.
- Alan.