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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Lazarus on Wednesday 08 November 17 04:42 GMT (UK)
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I am renewing my efforts in trying to resolve the identity of a miner drowned Cairns April 1907.
According to Morning Post of 30 Apr 1907, he was identified as John White a miner from the Irvinebank District.
He had been staying at the Newmarket Hotel and seen leaving there that morning.
It is likely he was really John Wyatt a well known miner who had been at Gympie and on the Palmer where he was a butcher in partnership with Bob Watson and Tom O'Doherty.
He was an ardent prospector , having been seen in Cairns by Messrs Mulligan.
If I am correct he was John Wyatt bC1826 Glossop Derbyshire who had arrived Maryborough Queensland together with his brother on "Sunda" arriving 1863.
His estimated age at death was 60. He may have been 80 as there was no firm evidence.
Can anyone throw light on his identification to support my evidence that it was my John Wyatt?
The electoral roll for Wide Bay shows him residing Adelaide St Maryborough 1864/5/6.
With thanks.
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This article says he was really John WYATT an old mining identity and butcher etc
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article214400787
Ros
adding : sorry this is the same as the article you mentioned. So you actually want to confirm that he is the same John Wyatt who was born in 1826 Glossop, Derbyshire who arrived in 1863. It wasn't clear from your post that the third paragraph was given in the article and I thought that was what you were trying to confirm
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Sorry if I am confusing Ros.
I think it is my John Wyatt.
I can account for him for a few years after arrival Maryborough but need further evidence regarding his later years.
Sounds like him but deemed age is an issue as I think he would have been about 80 not 60.
If he was a well known mining identity , there just might be further evidence which will clinch it for me.
Thanks
Rex
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Hi Rex,
Can you please post the attachment for your earlier post for John Wyatt.
Gerry
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Gerry
Is this what you would like to see:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44455978
Thanks
Rex
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If the deceased gentleman was reputed to have been born abt 1826 then I don't think, at the age of 40+ years old, he'd be described as "... a sturdy young miner in Gympie about 40 years ago..."
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Hi, you said in your previous post that John Wyatt, c1826, migrated with his brother Joseph and his wife.
From the 1841 census Blackshaw, Glossop, Derbyshire, John did'nt have a brother Joseph. His father was Joseph and his mother was Ellen. Is this the right family?
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My error.
It was his brother Joseph with wife Martha who were also on "Sunda" 1863.
Another brother Thomas and wife Sarah also arrived Maryborough 1875 on "Great Queensland".
The brothers settled Victoria whilst John apparently remained Queensland.
All three were children of Joseph Wyatt (snr) and Ellen Bartle.
Rex
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My error.
It was his brother Joseph with wife Martha who were also on "Sunda" 1863.
Another brother Thomas and wife Sarah also arrived Maryborough 1875 on "Great Queensland".
The brothers settled Victoria whilst John apparently remained Queensland.
All three were children of Joseph Wyatt (snr) and Ellen Bartle.
Rex
So thats not them in 1841 as there are no children Joseph and Thomas unless they were born after 1841.
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Found them Joseph 1842, Thomas 1844. FamilySearch MZ2T-LGC
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I was about to reply born after 1841.
Here they are still at home 1851:
Name Age
Joseph Wyatt 63
Ellen Wyatt 53
Dorathy Wyatt 21
Mary Ann Wyatt 15
Ellen Wyatt 13
Joseph Wyatt 8
Thomas Wyatt 6
Elizabeth Wyatt 2
Henry Wyatt 1
Rex
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It's the right tree in FamilySearch but not sure about the facts, It has John's death 1884 Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire and Thomas's death 1911 Victoria.
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Both Joseph and Thomas died 1911 Victoria.
John death Yorkshire not him.
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Looks the same but could be wrong.
Joseph Wyatt
1788–1873
Ellen Bartle
1799–Deceased
Marriage: 06 OCT 1823
Glossop,Derby,England
Hannah Wyatt
1821–1861
James Wyatt
1823–1882
John Wyatt
1826–1884
Dorathy Wyatt
1828–Deceased
Cephas Wyatt
1831–1905
Charles Wyatt
1833–Deceased
Mary Ann Wyatt
1836–Deceased
Ellen Wyatt
1838–1922
Joseph Wyatt
1842–1911
Thomas Wyatt
1844–1911
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Must be another slant on family of my great great grandparents Joseph and Ellen.? name of tree.
Slight variations some years. I have death Dorothy (1892) and Mary Ann (1897).
I hav1861 in Sowerby = 38 - 1823 born Glossop
1871 in Sowerby = 55 - 1816 born Derbyshire
1881 in Sowerby = 64 - 1817 born Sowerby
1884 = 72 - 1812e discounted the John Wyatt at Sowerby:
1851 in Sowerby = 35 - 1816 born Rowarth
"My" John Wyatt:
Name John Wiatt
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1827
Relation Lodger
Gender Male
Where born Blackshaw, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish Whitfield
Ecclesiastical parish Whitfield
County/Island Derbyshire
Country England
Registration district Hayfield
Sub-registration district Glossop
ED, institution, or vessel 4a
Household schedule number 31
Piece 2152
Folio 324
Page number 9
Household Members
Name Age
Samuel Nall 40
Anne Nall 34
Betty Ainsworth 7
John Wiatt 24
John Atkinson 25
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I am revisiting this topic hoping that I may have discovered further evidence that the John Wyatt who drowned Cairns 1907 is my connection bC1826 Glossop Derbyshire.
I believe he arrived 1863 om "Sunda" Maryborough Queensland.
There is a monument for him at McLeod St Pioneer Cemetery.
Doubt arises as to his age ie 80 instead of 60.
I need to establish if he is referred to in an article in the Brisbane Courier 2nd Dec 1885 might be him:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3453717
The article headed "Watsonville" may mention him .
I gather that this location is about 7 miles north west of Heberton.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3453717
Was Jack Wyatt in partnership with Bob Watson in the Royal Standard Claim?
I am hoping someone has further knowledge which will help me identify my John Wyatt.
I was previously advised that he might have been in partnership with Bob Watson and John O,Doherty.
With thanks