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Title: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Barbz on Wednesday 08 November 17 16:35 GMT (UK)
Hi
I wonder if anyone can help.
I've hit a brick wall trying to find out my 2 x great grandmothers parents.
Mary Jones was born in 1832 Holywell Flintshire Wales, and she married Joshua Jennings 24 April 1852 in Clywd, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales.
All I know is Holywell is on the census. Jones is a too common name for those in Wales.
She died 28 MAR 1871 • Dalton in Furness, Ulverston, Lancashire.
Any information about her life before she married Joshua would be great.
What I really would love to know is her parents and any siblings she may have had.
Kind thanks
Barbz
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 08 November 17 16:50 GMT (UK)
What information does her marriage certificate give for her and her father, who were the witnesses
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Barbz on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:31 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately i have yet to purchase to marriage certificate.
However, i do know the Marriage details
24 April 1852 • HOLYWELL, Clwyd, Flintsire, Wales
Joshua Jennings (1812–1906)
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Barbz on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:32 GMT (UK)
Name   Joshua Jennings
Registration Year   1852
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun
Registration district   Holywell
Parishes for this Registration District   Holywell
Inferred County   Flintshire
Volume   11b
Page   558
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 09 November 17 17:28 GMT (UK)
Hi,

With such a widespread common name as Jones..you REALLY need the info from marriage of Mary to help identify on census.

Name of father, witnesses & address can help greatly to know if following correct family.

There maybe no connection but 1871 census with Joshua is a visitor Leah Hughes, married age 33, b Holywell.  I think there is a possibility she maybe sister to Mary.

Possible

1841 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77T-G27

Mary is not with this family in 1851, possibly working. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG86-4RJ

Do you have her in 1861? Know some census is missing in this area in 1861.

Cas
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 09 November 17 17:40 GMT (UK)
Bapt for children of Mary/Joshua address Holloway/Gorsedd father a Miner

David - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCR7-BLC

Leah - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCRW-MY6

John - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCRW-MB6

Cas
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Barbz on Thursday 09 November 17 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hi
Mary and Joshua has 3 boys, David Martin Jennings, John Jones Jennings, and Thomas Robert Jennings.

David was born in Holywell. March 1855.
John was born in Dalton in Furness, Lancashire. April 1859.
Thomas was born in Bagillt, Holywell. 20 Jul 1861.

Death: 28 MAR 1871 • Dalton in Furness, Ulverston, Lancashire, England

I have no census records, from the above you can see she moved about a lot.

Kind regards
Barbz
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 09 November 17 18:14 GMT (UK)
Possible
Name:   Age at Death (in years):    
JENNINGS, LEAH       1     
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 08E  Page 423   

Would get marriage cert then go from there, otherwise just quess work.

Cas
 
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: wrjones on Friday 10 November 17 08:34 GMT (UK)
Obtaining the 1852 Marriage Certificate is absolutely essential as North Wales BMD lists the Marriage as a "Holywell Civil Marriage" which means that there is no chance of anyone doing a "look up" for you as it did not take place in any of the local Parish Churches.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 10 November 17 09:32 GMT (UK)
Obtaining the 1852 Marriage Certificate is absolutely essential as North Wales BMD lists the Marriage as a "Holywell Civil Marriage" which means that there is no chance of anyone doing a "look up" for you as it did not take place in any of the local Parish Churches.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

I would very much agree with William, if you wish to try get past your 'brick wall'

Cas
Title: Re: Mary Jones 1832-1871
Post by: Barbz on Friday 10 November 17 17:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help.
Much appreciated.
I will purchase the Marriage Certificate very soon.

Kind regards
Barbz