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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: moo on Friday 10 November 17 19:56 GMT (UK)
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Good Evening
I am looking for a marriage for John Taylor born 1796 Colsterworth Louth to a female called Mildred.
In the 1851 Census John is a carpenter aged 55, and Mildred is aged 49 Edward St Louth. They had 1 daughter Caroline that I know was baptised 1834 Louth and there are possibly 3 other children Frances, William and John.
I thought I had found them in the 1841 Census aged 45 and 39 Gospel Gate Louth ( cant for the life of me find it now ) I was trying to double check that Mildred was listed as Mildred. The reason for checking was I was thinking Caroline had married a William Cole 1855 Louth, all was progressing lovely till 1871 Census a mother is listed and called Mary ???.
Which then brings me to not being able to find either John or Mildred in 1861 Census.
Any ideas ......please
Many Thanks
Moo
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The 1851 census from which to work ;)
HO107 piece 2111folio 579 page 19
Edward st louth
John Taylor 55 Carpenter Colsterworth
Mildred Taylor 49 Louth
John Taylor son 18 butcher's apprentice Louth
Caroline Taylor dau 16 Louth
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The reason for checking was I was thinking Caroline had married a William Cole 1855 Louth, all was progressing lovely till 1871 Census a mother is listed and called Mary
You sound unsure as to whether you have the right marriage for Caroline?
Have you looked at the 1871 entry properly? Mary was surname Waite - not Taylor and she is shown as the mother of the head of the household (ie) William Cole not as Caroline's mother. If she was Caroline's mother she would be shown as mother in law
Have you checked freebmd for deaths for John & Mildred between 1851-1861?
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Possible
18 January 1825, Louth St James
John Taylor and Mildred Gant
Image here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l1a/
Baptism of a Mildred Gaunt in Louth in 1802
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Thank you Crisane - That's the one I am working from ;D
Hello CaroleW - You are right I am not totally sure of the marriage and was thinking I was on the wrong track when I saw mother and the surname not being Cole. Then not being able to find Mildred and John in 1871 to check if Caroline was still with them.
I think (hope) I am right (before ordering any certs) is in 1851- 1881 Caroline's brother is a butchers apprentice, and William Cole is a Pigger / Cattle Dealer. I was thinking that maybe thats how Caroline and William Cole met. Long shot - I know. ::)
Regards
Moo
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Is Caroline your direct ancestor? If so - you must know who she married
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Thank you Jonw65
A very good possibility, I have Frances b about 1826.
Just wish I could find my paperwork :(
Regards
Moo
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Hi CaroleW - Caroline is not my direct line, I try and do brothers and sisters as best as I can.
Regards
Moo
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Perhaps Mildred remarried?
March 1861 Louth 7a 709
Stones, John
Taylor, Mildred
A widowed Mildred Stones in Louth in 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8F-LSH
Marriage is on findmypast (I don't have access to that!)
John
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Mildred and John Stones in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M741-F4R
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Thank you Jon ;D
There are 3 possible deaths for John Taylor between 1856 and 1859.
Regards
Moo
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Hi
I can't see a death for Mildred as Stones. Did she marry for a third time?
Marriage, Sep 1872 Louth 7a 913
Stones, Mildred
One of the possible spouses is William Gant. A relative?
Death
Dec 1879 Louth 7a 380
Gant, Mildred
age 77
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Hello John
I would not be surprised at all ;D, relations all over the shop.
Regards
Moo
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There are 3 possible deaths for John Taylor between 1856 and 1859.
It's got to be
March 1859 Louth 7a 429
Taylor, John
age 63
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He left a will!
Probate Calendar 1959
John Taylor
late of Louth, Lincoln, Carpenter
died 4 March, Louth
Will proved at Lincoln 22 August
Sole executrix Mildred Taylor of Louth, Widow the Relict
John
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John - Thank you so much for the help, I have searched nearly all day and got nowhere.
Thank you everyone - I can feel that brick wall moving.
It also means I can move back a generation as his father was also called John Taylor who married an Alice.
Regards
Moo
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Baptisms;
St James, Louth
FRANCES 8 Dec 1825
MILDRED 1 April 1828
CAROLINE 6 Aug 1834
Parents JOHN/MILDRED Taylor, Fathers Occp Carpenter
Source FreeREG
FreeREG also has JOHN/WILLIAM 20 June 1832 as Tayler**
FRANCES mayt have married William HIPSLEY 1850 in Colsterworth, her Father John a Carpenter
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I agree John Parents are likely, John, a Carpenter and Alice.
John jnrs Bapt is on FreeREG and Parents Marriage 1794
And lastly for now Mildreds Parents Marriage is there 1796 in Thimbleby
Trish :)
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Thank you Trish
Very much appreciated ;D
Regards
Moo
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Details of that second marriage! Not doing well with the writing.
29th March 1861 at Louth St James
John Stones, of full age, Widower, Farmer, residence ?..ddlethore All Saints in this County, father Thomas Stones, Farmer
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Mildred Taylor, of full age, Widow, residence Louth, father William Gant, Well-digger?
Both signed
wit William Beech, Anna Maria ?
Lincolnshire Chronicle, 11 March 1859
Deaths
At Louth....and on the 4th, Mr. John Taylor, cow-keeper and carpenter, Edward-street, aged 63.
The daughter Mildred that Trish found may have died in 1840
Deaths in the Lincolnshire Chronicle, 22 May 1840
At Louth, on the 13th inst., Mildred Taylor, aged 12
John
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Theddlethorpe All Saints
Well-digger
Anna Maria TAYLOR
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Thanks Geoff!
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Thank you John and Geoff,
I think I have found a marriage between Mildred's daughter Frances to a William Beech in Louth 1849.
Anna Maria could well have been her daughter in law.
Fingers crossed
Regards
Moo
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Yes I think you are right re Frances marriage to William Beech.
The marriage I found is for a older Frances Taylor (from Census born c 1808 Colsterworth)
1851 Census Frances Beech is born c 1826 Louth.
I agree Anna Maria is likely her Daug in Law ( Anna Maria COE married John Taylor 1852)
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Hello Trish
I wonder if that Frances Taylor you found born c1808 Colsterworth is a sister to John Taylor who married an Alice, possible parents William Taylor and a Frances ::)
Going back to a previous post I downloaded the marriage cert for Caroline and it gave her father as John Taylor Carpenter. Caroline was a sister of Frances who married William Beech and I thought she may have married William Cole. On the marriage Williams father was not given and on his baptism his mother Mary was listed as a Cole -single woman, so I think it may bring me back full circle to the 1871 Census from that earlier post.
Regards
Moo
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Just found a marriage for a
Mary Cole who married 1833 Louth William Waite 1833, that is the name of the mother given in 1871, and William jnr was baptised 1830 Louth.
Regards
Moo
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It all adds up ;D
Yes Frances was a Sibling christened 26 June 1808, Colsterworth to JOHN/ALICE
So John Snr was a Carpenter also from her M/C