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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: famtree03 on Sunday 12 November 17 18:50 GMT (UK)
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Am driven demented bout my 3x great grandmother in my family tree. Her name is Harriet 1805 - 1889 her husband is John Duffy 1801-1889. No wedding details as most records for 1800-1835 are impossible to find online. Place is Bahola Mayo, I even paid for her daughters marriage cert only to find her father only in attendance! They had to have moved to Yorkshire circa 1845 ish as not in censy 1841 but are in 1851 yet same thing no Maiden name on anything on ancestry n other sites etc.... Any ideas please???
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Am driven demented bout my 3x great grandmother in my family tree. Her name is Harriet 1805 - 1889 her husband is John Duffy 1801-1889. No wedding details as most records for 1800-1835 are impossible to find online. Place is Bahola Mayo, I even paid for her daughters marriage cert only to find her father only in attendance! They had to have moved to Yorkshire circa 1845 ish as not in censy 1841 but are in 1851 yet same thing no Maiden name on anything on ancestry n other sites etc.... Any ideas please???
You didn't say what religion they were,
All church records for Bahola
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/church.php?civilparishid=1744&civilparish=Bohola&search_type=full
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Only start 1857
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Should famtree's post (reply #13) be a new thread, with a more precise title? The subject of famtree's search, Harriet, is from a different family and was living in a different county, Yorkshire, from that of the original poster's, who was Golding in Liverpool.
Topic split off with new title.
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Should famtree's post (reply #13) be a new thread, with a more precise title? The subject of famtree's search, Harriet, is from a different family and was living in a different county, Yorkshire, from that of the original poster's, who was Golding in Liverpool.
It is a regular thing when one thread gets hijacked by another.
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Hi FamTree03
Any ideas? Yes . . . . .
Why not give all the details that you know?
eg 1851/61 details should you know them?
" daughters marriage cert only to find her father only in attendance! "
How do you know that "he was on his own " ?
Do you mean that his was the only signature you recognised?
etc.
Come on. Rootschat is here to help if we can, but we need details . . . . .
Ray
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it is BOHOLA in mayo,
these site might be able to help
http://www.mayo.ie
http://www.mayo-ireland.ie
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does her death certificate not have her maiden name on it?
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John & Harriet lived in Hull.
1861 with 4 children, Hannah, Catherine, John and Patrick, all children born Ireland c1839-1845. A grandchild with surname Lowery is with them. Nearby is a young couple called Lowery with more children.
They remained in Hull 1871 & 1881.
1871 daughter Ellen and son John with them.
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Where was Harriet in 1851?
There were 2 girls called Hannah Duffy at 16 Mill St., Hull, in the household of Michael & Mary Lyon. The elder Hannah, aged 12 is a match for Harriet's daughter, Hannah in 1861. Her relationship was described as "cousin". A Bridget Duffy, 38, wood seller, was "aunt"; Mary Duffy, 16 was another cousin. The younger Hannah, aged 5 may have been "daughter". Harriet & John Duffy lived at Leaks Court (?), Mill St. in 1861.
1861. The same Bridget Duffy seems to have been at 21 Mill St. with daughter, Ann, 15 (possibly the younger Hannah from 1851).
Another Duffy family, headed by another Bridget, also dealer in firewood, was at 62 Mill St. in 1851. She had 3 children born in Ireland and 1, Anthony b. Leeds 1843. Lodgers were Patrick & Betsy McLane.
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Where was Harriet in 1851?
There were 2 girls called Hannah Duffy at 16 Mill St., Hull, in the household of Michael & Mary Lyon. The elder Hannah, aged 12 is a match for Harriet's daughter, Hannah in 1861. Her relationship was described as "cousin". A Bridget Duffy, 38, wood seller, was "aunt"; Mary Duffy, 16 was another cousin. The younger Hannah, aged 5 may have been "daughter". Harriet & John Duffy lived at Leaks Court (?), Mill St. in 1861.
1861. The same Bridget Duffy seems to have been at 21 Mill St. with daughter, Ann, 15 (possibly the younger Hannah from 1851).
Another Duffy family, headed by another Bridget, also dealer in firewood, was at 62 Mill St. in 1851. She had 3 children born in Ireland and 1, Anthony b. Leeds 1843. Lodgers were Patrick & Betsy McLane.
Harriet Duffy is my 4x grandmother 1802-1889
This is my family
Margaret Duffy 3 x grandma
John Duffy 4 x grandfather
All come over from Mayo Ireland circa 1840's
HARRIET DUFFY b 1802 but I can't find her Maiden name anywhere.
Also Harriet was her grandchild who would have been Harriet Lowery daughter of Walter Lowery and Margaret Duffy.
They all lived in Leeks court at one point.
I have an ancestry tree if that helps
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John & Harriet lived in Hull.
1861 with 4 children, Hannah, Catherine, John and Patrick, all children born Ireland c1839-1845. A grandchild with surname Lowery is with them. Nearby is a young couple called Lowery with more children.
They remained in Hull 1871 & 1881.
1871 daughter Ellen and son John with them.
Yes
Thank you
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Thank you they are all catholics
Am driven demented bout my 3x great grandmother in my family tree. Her name is Harriet 1805 - 1889 her husband is John Duffy 1801-1889. No wedding details as most records for 1800-1835 are impossible to find online. Place is Bahola Mayo, I even paid for her daughters marriage cert only to find her father only in attendance! They had to have moved to Yorkshire circa 1845 ish as not in censy 1841 but are in 1851 yet same thing no Maiden name on anything on ancestry n other sites etc.... Any ideas please???
You didn't say what religion they were,
All church records for Bahola
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/church.php?civilparishid=1744&civilparish=Bohola&search_type=full
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Should famtree's post (reply #13) be a new thread, with a more precise title? The subject of famtree's search, Harriet, is from a different family and was living in a different county, Yorkshire, from that of the original poster's, who was Golding in Liverpool.
It is a regular thing when one thread gets hijacked by another.
Oh dear sorry if I did something wrong, don't quit know my way around roots yet.
Didn't mean to spoil anyone's thread, I thought I had started a new topic.
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Hi FamTree03
Any ideas? Yes . . . . .
Why not give all the details that you know?
eg 1851/61 details should you know them?
" daughters marriage cert only to find her father only in attendance! "
How do you know that "he was on his own " ?
Do you mean that his was the only signature you recognised?
etc.
Come on. Rootschat is here to help if we can, but we need details . . . . .
Ray
I have marriage cert for
Walter Lowery
Margaret Duffy
Only signature of relative witness is her father John Duffy.
My family all came from Ireland
Duffy to Lowery to Godfrey to Myers my grandmother Margaret Ann Myers who lived on Hessle road Hull Yorkshire.
Even though Walter Lowery and Margaret Duffy were married at St Charles Sculcoates hull they were both born in Co Mayo Ireland.
John Duffy married to Harriet was born and married in Ireland of which there are no records pre 1857 and although I live in Ireland now am too ill to travel to Mayo.
I do have a family tree in ancestry UK but there records have become very limited in last few years and membership is expensive. It never reveals a person's occupation either.
Thanks
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Hello,
Where do you have the evidence for Bohola as place of origin?
Where are the family in 1851?
Heywood
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Hello,
Where do you have the evidence for Bohola as place of origin?
Where are the family in 1851?
Heywood
In 1851 all family are in hull Yorkshire.
The evidence for Bahola comes from census of 1851 where John Duffy says its his birth PLACE BAHOLA MAYO
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Where do you have the evidence for Bohola as place of origin?
Where are the family in 1851?
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Thank you.
I can’t see them in 1851 and for some reason, I can’t access any trees. I have tried earlier.
Do you have the 1851 reference please?
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Hello,
I have looked at some published trees now for your family but the ones I can see are not very helpful. The screenshot you have posted does not show the source for that birth.
If you have them in 1851 would you give the details please.
I will continue to look but it would be useful if you could point us in the right direction. :)
Heywood
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I couldn't find Harriet & John in 1851 either. I thought that the elder Hannah I noted in a previous post may have been their daughter with her aunt. Names may have been incorrectly transcribed on indexes I was looking at.
What was their address in 1851?
Were any of Harriet's children born in England?
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I couldn't find Harriet & John in 1851 either. I thought that the elder Hannah I noted in a previous post may have been their daughter with her aunt. Names may have been incorrectly transcribed on indexes I was looking at.
What was their address in 1851?
Were any of Harriet's children born in England?
It seems harriet and john lived with their daughter Margaret and her husband Walter Lowery
Who's children were:
Mary kate
Micheal
Catherine
Margaret
Harriet
John
Sabina
John & Harriets children were:
Mary
Hannah
Margaret
Ellen
Catherine
John
Patrick
They all lived at 4 leeks court and mill street in Hull Yorkshire
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Duffy and lowery families
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Hi famtree03,
We have that information in the censuses it is just 1851 that is missing.
Perhaps they are not on 1851 in Hull?
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Am confused someone keeps posting that harriet is from another topic or thread and different country
I only joined recently and as far as I know I started this very topic about my descendants from Mayo Ireland and the search for my great grandmothers Maiden name.
All replies are about my family Duffy & Lowery so I do not know why or who keeps posting that I did something wrong, one poster says I "high jacked the thread"
Moderator please help, am I doing something wrong here?
Suzanne
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Where was Harriet in 1851?
There were 2 girls called Hannah Duffy at 16 Mill St., Hull, in the household of Michael & Mary Lyon. The elder Hannah, aged 12 is a match for Harriet's daughter, Hannah in 1861. Her relationship was described as "cousin". A Bridget Duffy, 38, wood seller, was "aunt"; Mary Duffy, 16 was another cousin. The younger Hannah, aged 5 may have been "daughter". Harriet & John Duffy lived at Leaks Court (?), Mill St. in 1861.
1861. The same Bridget Duffy seems to have been at 21 Mill St. with daughter, Ann, 15 (possibly the younger Hannah from 1851).
Another Duffy family, headed by another Bridget, also dealer in firewood, was at 62 Mill St. in 1851. She had 3 children born in Ireland and 1, Anthony b. Leeds 1843. Lodgers were Patrick & Betsy McLane.
Yes these are my family Ellen is daughter of Harriet & John Duffy as is Hannah.
Bridget Duffy is Johns sister
And yes all the Irish families that came over 1840's famine time in Hull lived or lodged in Mill Street area
Suzanne
Suzanne
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I don’t think anyone has posted that you did something wrong. Your initial post re Harriet was on another thread which must have had a surname connection or something.
It often happens when people like yourself are searching and spot a name.
The moderators then make a new thread just so that your query can be dealt with as best we can.
I have been confused because nowhere can I see John and Harriet in 1851 and more specifically a reference to ‘Bohola’.
I have seen a public tree which gives a birthplace of ‘Tombohola’ but no supporting evidence.
As you say, there are several Duffys living in the same area in Hull. They may be related.
I have tried to follow some family members to see if they give a birthplace.
The only one I can see is Patrick b 1845 who marries Hannah (I think it was) and he shows Aghamore. Do you know if that is the same Patrick as yours?
Some parishes in Mayo do have registers going back to 1830s etc but Bohola and Aghamore do not.
Unfortunately, as John and Harriet did not have any children in England, to check her maiden name and as Duffy is a common name it is difficult to find records to help your search.
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Am confused someone keeps posting that harriet is from another topic or thread and different country
I only joined recently and as far as I know I started this very topic about my descendants from Mayo Ireland and the search for my great grandmothers Maiden name.
All replies are about my family Duffy & Lowery so I do not know why or who keeps posting that I did something wrong, one poster says I "high jacked the thread"
Moderator please help, am I doing something wrong here?
Suzanne
Your original post was on an old thread about a different surname in Liverpool, if I remember correctly. Liverpool is in the county of Lancashire. It was I who suggested that your post be moved to a new thread and given a title which included the name of the person you were researching. My reasons were:
1. To give your enquiry more prominence, hopefully attracting more replies.
2. Make it obvious whom you were researching.
3. Bring it to the attention of someone who might know something about your ancestor, if not now, then in future.
4. To keep the old thread, started by another person about their Liverpool family to lines of enquiry connected with that topic and not complicate it by introducing another, unrelated and unconnected family, resident in another English county. A thread on RootsChat can become long and complex even when it sticks to the original enquiry.
I think the person who made the "highjacked" comment was replying to me. It was "shorthand" and meant it often happens that people, especially new visitors, add a post to a thread that's not connected with their own enquiry. That poster really meant " no worries". A moderator, on reading the comments, was of the opinion that it was better to create a new thread for your enquiry. The action was intended to help you.
There was no offence meant. You didn't do anything "wrong". Most people on here do the best they can with enquiries which turn up. Comments and questions in reply to a query are intended to clarify matters so we have a better chance of getting somewhere.
I look first at enquiries about names, places or topics I may know something about. I tend to ignore/ leave until later, enquiries whose titles contain no information.
If you have more than 1 thread about the same family a moderator will post a link to the other thread. This is partly so that people following the enquiries can easily look at both threads without information having to be repeated on both, or them wasting time finding information already known. Sometimes a moderator will merge 2 threads started by a poster if s/he thinks they are on the same topic and duplicating information. A moderator may move a thread to another sub board if they consider it a more appropriate "home". You will be told if these actions have been taken. All these things are done for the benefit of enquirer and people helping their research.
I joined RootsChat a year ago and am still finding my way around. :)
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Where was Harriet in 1851?
There were 2 girls called Hannah Duffy at 16 Mill St., Hull, in the household of Michael & Mary Lyon. The elder Hannah, aged 12 is a match for Harriet's daughter, Hannah in 1861. Her relationship was described as "cousin". A Bridget Duffy, 38, wood seller, was "aunt"; Mary Duffy, 16 was another cousin. The younger Hannah, aged 5 may have been "daughter". Harriet & John Duffy lived at Leaks Court (?), Mill St. in 1861.
1861. The same Bridget Duffy seems to have been at 21 Mill St. with daughter, Ann, 15 (possibly the younger Hannah from 1851).
Another Duffy family, headed by another Bridget, also dealer in firewood, was at 62 Mill St. in 1851. She had 3 children born in Ireland and 1, Anthony b. Leeds 1843. Lodgers were Patrick & Betsy McLane.
Yes these are my family Ellen is daughter of Harriet & John Duffy as is Hannah.
Bridget Duffy is Johns sister
And yes all the Irish families that came over 1840's famine time in Hull lived or lodged in Mill Street area
Suzanne
Suzanne
Thank-you for that information.
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Am confused someone keeps posting that harriet is from another topic or thread and different country......
All replies are about my family Duffy & Lowery so I do not know why or who keeps posting that I did something wrong ....
Suzanne
I've read your posts on other threads and as far as I can see the only people who suggested you have a thread specifically for Harriet Duffy were me and the moderator of the board on which you posted your seeking of Harriet's maiden name.
I saw that you added a post to a thread started in 2008 by Nickb with the title "1901 Census look-up". From reading the thread it seems as though the family in Hull which Nickb was seeking may have had a connection to a Margaret Lowery. You were correct to add a post to that thread. I suggest you add a PS to your post there to draw readers' attention to this post. You could add links between that thread and this or ask a moderator to add them. That way, readers of either post will know there may be more information about the family on this site. I hope Nickb replies and you are able to help each other.
Have you put the Duffy and Lowery surnames on the Surnames Interest List?
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Just found an old post of yours which I missed earlier. It's on a thread "Harriet Eyton and John Duffy Marriage 1874". You said on that you thought Harriet's maiden name was Eyton. Do you no longer think she was Harriet Eyton?
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Just found an old post of yours which I missed earlier. It's on a thread "Harriet Eyton and John Duffy Marriage 1874". You said on that you thought Harriet's maiden name was Eyton. Do you no longer think she was Harriet Eyton?
This is Harriet and john Duffys son John Junior who married harriet Eyton
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So sorry have been off here for over a year
Am chronically ill so have to pace myself
Have done a lot more on ancestry UK and have my DNA results on MyHeritagr
Sadly not much more on
John Duffy & Harriet tho
Seams family may be from Aghamore or tomboholla both near Charlestown knock area
Still no surname for Harriet
Do have some married names for their children all born ireland then settled in Kingston upon Hull bout 1852 except Mary who must have stayed ireland or emigrated
Mary 1833 ?
Margaret 1836 walter lowry
Hannah 1839
Ellen 1840 ?
Catherine 1841 Brian Godfry
John 1843
Ptrik1845th HannahsShiply
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Hello again. Welcome back to RootsChat. Sorry you're not well.
I've been reading the thread to remind myself of what it's about.