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Title: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: donut 2 on Wednesday 22 November 17 15:07 GMT (UK)
I am looking for details of the family of George Joseph Ellis Johnstone who I believe was born in Gorey in Jersey in 1879.
Not having much success. Are there special sites of Channel Island Genealogy.
Would be most grateful for any help/advice.
Donut 2
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:16 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Do you have his marriage certificate as that should give information on his father.

Rosie
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: donut 2 on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks for replying Rosie. Sadly no certificate.  I know from the 1911 Census that he says he was born in Gorey, Jersey.  I was hoping to find details of his birth without having to obtain the certificate.
  Donut 2
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: MaureeninNY on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:35 GMT (UK)
I could be way off on this but on the 1881 Channel Islands census there's a George J E MOSES b 1879 living at Gorey Pier with his grandparents Joseph T and Mary A MOSES.

I think his parents were Mary Ann Jane MOSES (their daughter) and George Ellis MOSES (son of George Edwin MOSES) b 1856 Anglesey. George is on the 1881 census in Tranmere Cheshire and listed as a widower.

Makes you wonder if George J E was subsequently "adopted" by a Johnstone family or something.

Just a maybe. :) Welcome to RootsChat from me as well.

Maureen
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: donut 2 on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Maureen, - that is a complication I had not even thought of....something to think about.
Donut2
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:42 GMT (UK)
That looks very good Maureen  ;D
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: MaureeninNY on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:46 GMT (UK)
My head's still spinning from typing that out. :)

Maureen
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: la grande-méthe on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:57 GMT (UK)
There is a George Joseph Ellis Moses in the St Martin birth indexes (Gorey is partly in the parish of St Martin) between 1873 and 1884, it is on page 46 which would make it about half way through the time covered by the register.
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:58 GMT (UK)
I see from this census he was a Staff sgt in the Army Pay Corps
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZT-DTZ

ADDED
It may be worth browsing the Chatham Parish registers for the marriage.  Unfortunately at the moment MedwayCityArk website is down.
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: donut 2 on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:16 GMT (UK)
Maureen, I do know details of his marriage .  He married isobel elizabeth hickson in 1904 in Chatham
I realise this may be my only way to clarify details of who at least his father was, especially after your suggestion of a possible 'adoption' !!Regards donut 2
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:20 GMT (UK)
The marriage may not show his birth father, he wouldn't be the first person to invent one. 
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: MaureeninNY on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:27 GMT (UK)
As Rosie says,when the CityArk site is up and running again (fingers crossed) we can look for the parish reg image of the marriage and see what that says.

Any idea of when he died?

Maureen
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: la grande-méthe on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:32 GMT (UK)
The marriage between George Ellis Moses and Mary Ann Jane Moses (maiden name) took place on 29 Nov 1877 in St Martin's Church.

George Ellis Moses, aged 21, bachelor, occupation Merchant, living in St Martin, born in Beaumaris Wales, Father George Edwin Moses - Householder
Mary Ann Jane Moses, aged 26, spinster, no occupation, born and living in St Martin. Father Joseph Thomas Moses - Merchant
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: la grande-méthe on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:40 GMT (UK)
It looks as if Mary Ann Jane Moses died in St Martin between 1873 and 1884. It's on page 48 of the death register so probaly about the time George was born.
Title: Re: George Joseph Ellis Johnstone
Post by: donut 2 on Wednesday 22 November 17 17:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for all your help.  Can you tell if there was a family called Johnstone, living in Gorey in 1881? Donut 2