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Title: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Wednesday 22 November 17 22:43 GMT (UK)
My great, great grandfather Allen Townend was born in Shelley, Yorkshire in 1825. His death certificate states he died on 15th July 1854, aged 29, at Number 62, Islington, Liverpool of pleuresy, I believe on a visit to the city. But I cannot find where he was buried. Would his family have his body brought back to Yorkshire, I wonder? He was a master grocer so not poverty-stricken I would think. Or was he buried where he died. I have searched all possible burial places in his birth place without success. Can anyone find him please?!
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 24 November 17 22:18 GMT (UK)
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Post by: jess5athome on Friday 24 November 17 22:21 GMT (UK)
Hi, are those dates correct? the dates would make him 29 at death.

Regards
Frank.
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: DRB4 on Friday 24 November 17 22:22 GMT (UK)
Hi, are those dates correct? the dates would make him 29 at death.

Regards
Frank.
My great, great grandfather Allen Townend was born in Shelley, Yorkshire in 1825. His death certificate states he died on 15th July 1854, aged 29, at Number 62, Islington, Liverpool of pleuresy, I believe on a visit to the city. But I cannot find where he was buried. Would his family have his body brought back to Yorkshire, I wonder? He was a master grocer so not poverty-stricken I would think. Or was he buried where he died. I have searched all possible burial places in his birth place without success. Can anyone find him please?!
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: DRB4 on Friday 24 November 17 22:23 GMT (UK)
Yes, the dates are correct. He was 29 when he died.
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: giggsycat on Friday 24 November 17 22:25 GMT (UK)
This is the confusing part for Jess!

15th July 1854 at 62, Islington, LIverpool

Is 62 part of the address?

Giggsy
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: jess5athome on Friday 24 November 17 22:27 GMT (UK)
Yes, the dates are correct. He was 29 when he died.

My apologies, I read it as he had died aged 62  :-[

Frank.
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: DRB4 on Friday 24 November 17 22:28 GMT (UK)
Yes - he died at Number 62, Islington, Liverpool aged 29!!
Title: Re: He must be buried somewhere!!
Post by: DRB4 on Friday 24 November 17 22:34 GMT (UK)
I've changed the post to avoid confusion!
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 24 November 17 22:48 GMT (UK)
Have you tried local newspapers in case there is a report of his funeral
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Post by: DRB4 on Friday 24 November 17 22:51 GMT (UK)
No, Rosie, I haven't but it's a good idea. I'll follow it up. Thanks.
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Post by: Gibel on Saturday 25 November 17 14:49 GMT (UK)
In the 1851 census he's a hand loom weaver fancy vesting lodging in Shelley, he then moves to or visits Liverpool and is a master grocer when he dies.

Have you found 62 Islington in a directory or the 1851 census to see who is living there/ what business is carried out there?

Who registered his death?

Which burial grounds have you tried in Liverpool?
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Saturday 25 November 17 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hello - I've tried to find who was living at 62 Islington on the 2 censuses on either side of his death. But, as I haven't access to Find My Past I can't search by address. I have trawled through them via Ancestry and searched the 1890 O.S map for nearby streets to help. No success so far!!

I haven't looked on Trade Directories yet.

The informant was John Preston resident in Shelley, who was also a witness on his marriage certificate to Susan Eastwood. So I am certain that the death certificate is correct.

I have searched as many burial records as I can online. Also his burial does not appear on the National Burial Index.
Many thanks for your interest.
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Post by: Gibel on Saturday 25 November 17 18:39 GMT (UK)
If I have the correct marriage for Allen Townend the witness was John Preston Mark Townend.

My ancestors in the Islington area are buried at Low Hill Cemetery sometimes called Necropolis. Their records are available on Family Search.
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Saturday 25 November 17 18:47 GMT (UK)
Yes - you have the correct marriage.
Many thanks - I'll look on Family Search when I get home tonight - if I can focus that is - 80's party!!
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Saturday 25 November 17 18:51 GMT (UK)
Oh dear just tried to look on Family Search before I go out. I can search deaths but how do I search burials please??
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Post by: Gibel on Sunday 26 November 17 09:29 GMT (UK)
This is how I do it

Go to the website of the Liverpool & S W Lancashire FHS www.liverpool- genealogy.org.uk and then go to the Forum ( you may wish to join their forum as well as here) then scroll down the page to Family Search links click on that and then click on the Liverpool PRs and then find the relevant bit.

You will need to create a log in for the family search site. Having found Low Hill you have to find the relevant years and scroll through the film. They are not indexed.
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Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 26 November 17 11:15 GMT (UK)
I can't find a burial in Liverpool he may be buried in Yorkshire.


Blue
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 26 November 17 11:27 GMT (UK)
Gore's Liverpool Directory 1853

Islington

62 Sarah Cashen
62A Ann Dent


Blue
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Sunday 26 November 17 12:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you VERY much for that info. Will definitely try that.
Title: Re: Where was he buried??
Post by: DRB4 on Sunday 26 November 17 13:04 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for finding that information for me. The names of the residents don't mean anything to me but I'll have a look at the censuses now.
I have searched all the possible burial records for cemeteries around his birthplace - I live in the next village, so I am familiar with the possibilities!! No joy there.

Dinah