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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: 1banshee on Monday 27 November 17 00:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Would anyone happen to know what regiment this is, from the photo? I had previously asked on the handwriting board for help to determine if the word penned on the photo was Daddy or Paddy - Daddy, (my great granddad), was in the Inniskilling fusiliers, 6th battalion and made it to Sergeant, however, Paddy, (his brother), was a sapper! I now know that the photo is not of the Inniskilling Fusiliers, but wondered what regiment it is and if anyone could shed any light?
Thank you
Michelle
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some of these lads look very young so maybe Army Cadets rather than full timers.
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Boys joined at fourteen as drummers or buglers.
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Hi and thanks for your responses...Paddy was about 20 on this photo apparently....this is a copy of his service record, (front sheet).
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Not RA as wrong cap badge.
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Could be one of the Young Soldiers Battalions affiliated to one of the Scots Regiments.These were training Batts producing soldiers for General Service.
I looked at 53rd YS battalion affiliated to HLI but cap badge doesn't seem to match.
Ady
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Looking in the other direction, the Patrick Doran who joined the RFA on 13 Jan 1915 said he was 19yrs 9 months and that he had not served before. He would have been 20 in early 1915. He was discharged in July 1915 "not likely to become an efficient soldier". Whether he then went on to join the outfit pictured - pass.
MaxD
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Hi,
Thanks for the replies - yes Paddy's service record reads like a game of hide and seek - with him consistently, on a once a month basis, being found in nearby towns after getting drunk and fighting - he spent a lot of time confined to barracks and also given 14 days field punishment 2 - at this time he was in the O.C. 52nd reserve battery RFA - both his father and brother were also in the military but they behaved themselves and came away with medals etc. The photo is one found amongst the family album - there were a number of Johns and Paddy's so although the record is true to my great Uncle Paddy the man on the photo could possibly be his cousin or father depending on when the photo was taken lol
Many thanks for taking a look
Michelle
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Would I be right in saying 1 officer, 1 big drummer, 5 side drummers, rest buglers, 1 irish hound.
Officer with 2 medals, 1 in middle row no cap with medal, all with same cap badge and apart from officer, all under age 21 ?
Would that be a typical group for an army unit "band" ?
jcmac.
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I would say it has the correct ingredients to indeed be one - I have another photo with older men and the younger men in the family, including Paddy above, and they have drums too - however, that wasn't Military, it was civvy street, Glasgow style lol
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Good evening,
We know this is not RA by the cap badge. I would also discount Scottish as well, wrong jackets and no dicing on hats.
I would also say no to them all being under 21, there is at least one with a medal. Right of bass drum as we look at it, and those to his left, right as we look, are all older. There are others in there who look older as well.
Territorial force is an option as well, on summer camp. Could also be pre or post war, post war would be my option of choice.
Lastly, the dog is a black lab, wolfhounds have feathered feet and muzzle.
John915
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The regimental band could be in the Cameronians:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/bagpipes-could-banned-home-world-3089907
In the link above scroll down to see photo of "The band of the 7th battalion the Cameronians in Glasgow Green during a recruiting march in 1915"
The glengarry and cap badge look similar.
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Thank you John915, I did think some looked older and you could be on to something there Tonepad - they do look very similar!