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Title: sussex smiths
Post by: Reuben Hathaway on Saturday 02 December 17 19:31 GMT (UK)
hi has anyone got any information on smiths from Sussex,my 3rd great grandmother olive smith born 1822 Brighton and her spouse James nicholls born 1820 Brighton,her father was George but i have no mothers name thank you
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 02 December 17 19:42 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

For info only

Marriages September qtr 1848 Olive Smith/James Nichols Lewes 7 565

Have you found Olive on the 1841 census?
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 02 December 17 19:47 GMT (UK)
Were the Smith family travellers?  I notice the 1851 shows James as a traveller.  What was George Smiths occupation on the 1848 marriage cert

The 1851 shows a 5yr old son James born before the marriage.  In 1861 - Olive is shown as b 1824 Brighton
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 02 December 17 20:06 GMT (UK)
Marriage was at Ringmer
James was a Chimney Sweep. For father it says "Illegitimate Son of Ann Nichols"
Olive's father was George Smith, Basket Maker
residence for both Ringmer
witnesses John Gardener, Sarah Gardener
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: Reuben Hathaway on Saturday 23 December 17 16:59 GMT (UK)
hi thanks for the info i am missing a baptism but more important i cant find any info about her mother
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:07 GMT (UK)
A possibility?
From The Keep website
Removal order from Newhaven
George Smith otherwise Collinson of Brighton with wife Olive and children George (2 years) and Olive (5 months); with account of relief paid by Newhaven, 28 Jan 1823
Endorsed: suspended due to illness OS, costs amounted to £3 6s 10d to 28 Jan 1823

(ESRO ref PAR 426/32/2/49)
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:16 GMT (UK)
A baptism at Ninfield
11 Feby 1821
George
Son of George + Olive Smith
abode Ninfield
father a Chimney sweeper Traveller
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:21 GMT (UK)
Another one?
This time at Winchelsea
Baptism, 25 Dec 1824
Charlotte
Dr. of George and Olive Smith
abode Winchelsea
father a Chimney Sweep
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:33 GMT (UK)
Removal order from Newhaven
Three images, starting here (if you have a free account and are logged in)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6967-L18?i=106&cat=1474059
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:34 GMT (UK)
Have you found Olive on the 1841 census?
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 17:50 GMT (UK)
ESRO ref PAR 426/32/2/49

From The Keep website.
But if you look at the second of the images, the ESRO reference at the bottom is actually
PAR 426/32/2/47

Just to be pedantic!
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 18:04 GMT (UK)
The only marriage I've been able to come up with is not too far away from the places mentioned, but was in Kent
5 June 1820, Staplehurst
George Smith + Olive Williams

I haven't seen any baptisms in Kent to a George and Olive Smith, so it may be a possibility. We shall see.
John
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: Reuben Hathaway on Saturday 23 December 17 18:07 GMT (UK)
good stuff jon many thanks what is the website the keep please
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hi
It's the East Sussex Record Office website. The Keep in Brighton is their home.
http://www.thekeep.info

John
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: Reuben Hathaway on Saturday 23 December 17 18:23 GMT (UK)
hi jon youve been a great help many thanks,is this just a hobby or are you from the smith family,if so are you on ancestry at all or done dna, regards .....reuben
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 23 December 17 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hi
Just helping! I do have Smiths in my tree, but they are lost in Northumberland! I doubt whether they were related to your George and Olive, but you never know.
A terrible admission, I've not caught up with dna yet.
John
Title: Re: sussex smiths
Post by: Reuben Hathaway on Saturday 23 December 17 18:45 GMT (UK)
well like i say many thanks jon,you might have just got me closer to knocking down one big smith brick wall regards reuben