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Title: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: AussieKate on Sunday 03 December 17 06:16 GMT (UK)
i am wondering if anybody can help me i am looking for any records in reference to my 4x Great Uncle Peter Broatch/Broach who died in 1873 in the Southern Countries Asylum in Dumfries.  i have him in the 41, 51, 61 and 71 census records but that is it. 

thanks

Kate
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: ev on Sunday 03 December 17 08:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Kate ,

Have you seen this ?
http://maxwellancestry.co.uk/mcrtranscript.aspx?mcrid=320703



ev
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: imchad on Sunday 03 December 17 08:50 GMT (UK)
Hi, All the Southern Counties records are held in the Ewart library, Dumfries. If you are going though, you need to talk to the Archivist first and make sure you have the right items ordered as they are held on the other side of town. There is a project at the moment to index these records and they will probably end up on https://info.dumgal.gov.uk/HistoricalIndexes/  But for the moment, the Ewart library is the place to go.

Regards
Ian A McClumpha
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: Millmoor on Sunday 03 December 17 08:52 GMT (UK)
Suggest you google Dumfries Asylum - huge number of records for it have been digitised by the Wellcome Library. It might, however, involve a lot of browsing!

William
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: AussieKate on Sunday 03 December 17 11:34 GMT (UK)
thanks for that  :)
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: imchad on Sunday 03 December 17 17:32 GMT (UK)
I know that the Welcome Trust are involved in the digitisation that is going on right now. Perhaps they will have them online soon.
Ian
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: Millmoor on Sunday 03 December 17 19:02 GMT (UK)
They are online, Imchad -hence my previous post :)
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 03 December 17 20:51 GMT (UK)
Perhaps I missed it, but are you able to search patient records via the Wellcome digitised collection?

Kate, do you have Peter's death certificate?
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: Millmoor on Sunday 03 December 17 21:45 GMT (UK)
The Wellcome Library page for Crichton Royal  Hospital  states  that  the digitised archive covers the period from 1823 - 2008 and includes records on patients admissions and casenotes from 1838-1913.

William
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: AussieKate on Monday 04 December 17 00:40 GMT (UK)
Yeah i do have a black and white copy of the entry of the death with the cause of death.
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 04 December 17 01:13 GMT (UK)
The Wellcome Library page for Crichton Royal  Hospital  states  that  the digitised archive covers the period from 1823 - 2008 and includes records on patients admissions and casenotes from 1838-1913.

William

Thanks William, yes, I noticed the details about the coverage, but I can't find anywhere to "search" these records by the person's name. I'm sure I must be missing something obvious. :)

Kate, I have heard that record keeping was not the best and that some records are missing. Apparently Sheriff's Warrants may also be worth pursuing. If Peter was on the 1871 census and died in 1873 at the asylum, this narrows down his date of admission.
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: tika on Saturday 09 December 17 21:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Kate

The Wellcome records are not easy to search and not all of them are online.  I have had a look at them and found Peter Boach (as it is spelled). He was admitted to the Southern Counties Asylum on 10/09/1872.he was shown as married and aged 52 years with no occupation and home address: Nethermill, Kirkmichael.  Form of Mental Disorder: Idiocy.  Bodily Condition Impaired.  Supposed Cause Unknown.  His date of death 25/04/1873 which you already have. Hope this helps.

Morag
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: tika on Saturday 09 December 17 21:28 GMT (UK)
Hi again
I have also found the Sherrif Warrant which was signed to put Peter into the Asylum. I can email you a copy if you message me.

Morag
Title: Re: Southern Counties Asylum Records
Post by: imchad on Saturday 09 December 17 21:32 GMT (UK)
Scottish news on Friday had Graham Roberts, Archivist at Dumfries, interviewed about the Chrichton Records. Welcome Trist spent £200,000 on the project and it has now been finished.

Ian McClumpha