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Hoping someone might coax out some more information on this couple (parents' names, witnesses' names, etc.):
Name: Benjamin Whitehead
Spouse's Name: Sarah Worthington
Event Date: 23 Jun 1828
Event Place: Manchester Collegiate Church
When their son John WHITEHEAD (Machine Maker) married Mary WILLOUGHBY at Manchester Cathedral in 1851, the certificate said Benjamin was a “Packer”
This may be the family in 1841 on Westmorland Street, Manchester - but here Benjamin is a Cotton Weaver:
Benj.n WHITEHEAD, 30, Cotton Weaver, yes
Sarah WHITEHEAD, 35, Weaver, yes
Ellen WHITEHEAD, 60, yes
Edwd WHITEHEAD, 12, yes
John WHITEHEAD, 11, Turner [do?], yes
Benj.n WHITEHEAD, 8, yes
James WHITEHEAD, 3, yes
Many thanks!
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The 1841 looks possible - there's a birth reg in Manchester for James Whitehead with mother's maiden name Worthington in 1837
PLus others
Ellen Q1 1840 (potential death Q3 1840)
Sarah Q3 1842
Robert Q2 1847
Ruth Q2 1849
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Thanks for that!
Since posting I remembered that Familysearch.org has scans of the Manchester Cathedral films - they just haven't been indexed yet. So I found their marriage record:
Benjamin WHITEHEAD is listed as a Card-grinder.
And the witnesses were John NEAL and John WHITEHEAD.
No parents, alas.
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Fathers names were not shown on marriages pre- 1.7.1837 which was the date Civil Registration was introduced
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Living with the family in 1841 is Ellen Whitehead whom I suspect is Benjamin's mother.
I also think that this could be Benjamin's baptism:
Benjamin Whitehead or Walton bp.8/3/1807 Manchester, son of Edward Walton and Ellen Whitehead (on FindMyPast).
Can find no subsequent marriage between the parents - note that eldest child was named Edward.
Annette
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Thanks for that! They do seem to be the likeliest suspects. As do these:
Deaths Dec 1866
WHITEHEAD Benjamin, 59: Manchester/8d/93
Deaths Sep 1868
Whitehead Sarah, 65: Manchester/8d/135
Somehow I haven't yet been able to find them in 1851 or 1861, though - I used to be better at this!
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A correction to my above supposition:
Sarah WHITEHEAD (née WORTHINGTON) must have died by 03 Apr 1849, because on that date Benjamin WHITEHEAD (41, widower, packer, of 1 Poland Street) married Rachel BARNES (née LEE, 41, widow, of 84 Silk Street) at Manchester Cathedral.
Benjamin's father isn't noted, which seems to confirm that he was born out of wedlock to Ellen WHITEHEAD.
I tried to find Benjamin and Rachel in 1851, but couldn't, somehow.
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Possible from 1851 - children all b Manchester. Address 13 Lees St, St Paul's Manchester
Benjamin Whitehead 30 - b Nottingham, card room [?]
Rachael Whitehead 47 - b Nottingham
John Whitehead 23
Benjamin Whitehead 18
Thomas Whitehead 14
Cornelius Whitehead 16
Rachael Whitehead 8
Mary Whitehead 67 - relative, widow b Nottinghamshire
HO107, 2228, 202, 11
Here's a reason why I connect this to the marriage you found
Cornelius Barns
Baptism 10 Mar 1833, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father: George Barns
Mother: Rachel Barns
Note the difference in ages and occupations from the marriage details though
Your suggestion that Sarah died pre 1849 is also an issue, given the birth of Ruth Whitehead, mmn Worthington, in Q2 1849 as i listed previously
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Colliegate Manchester
burial
16th April 1805
John Walton
child of Ellen Walton
same church,
6th July 1814
John Swindells widower Tanner of this parish
Ellen Walton spinster of this town and Parish
witnessed by I Chantler and John Baxter
perhaps have a look for them and see if there is a connection
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Wodering if this was George Barnes and family in 1841
George Barns 35 - carder
Sarah Barns 30
Chas Barns 15
Cornelious Barns 8
same address, different household
Jane Lee 60 - keeps lodgings
Ellen Davis 33
Margaret Ryan 20
John Brooks 15
Charlote Davis 9
HO107, 576, 1, 16
George & Rachel baptise a Charles in 1826
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Thanks for the leads - I'll poke around and see if I can make some solid connection.
It turns out, too, that a Benjamin WHITEHEAD ran afoul of the law in the late 1840s and 1850s. I don’t have access to the criminal register reports, but I found a few news items in the Manchester Guardian - he stole cloth from a warehouse (more than once).