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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: GJohns on Saturday 16 December 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Does anyone have any information on Eliza Johns married to William Johns (King of the gipsies FoD).
I am struggling to find a maiden name.
Several census's show they were camped with Fletchers but the children married hodkins/hoskins, butlers and smiths.
Eliza was born around 1855 died 1929. According to the various newspaper articles that reported on her funeral her sister sarah hoskins attended.
Census results say place of birth brambles / bramber ?worcestershire or ledbury Herefordshire.
Any help would be great ?
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Welcome to RootsChat! ;D
Have you tried the Forest Of Dean website?
www.forest-of-dean.net
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Welcome to Rootschat.
Have you got the names of any of the children and have you found their birth registration on the GRO site as that would give you Eliza's maiden name?
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Welcome to Rootschat.
Have you got the names of any of the children and have you found their birth registration on the GRO site as that would give you Eliza's maiden name?
There are supposed to be around 16 children I have identified 10. Havent looked on the GRO will check that out. Have they always put maiden name on the records ? All the children i have are born pre 1900.
William
David
Comfort
Sarah
Henry (my g grandfathe)
Elizabeth
Linge?
Matilda
King
Mark
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Welcome to RootsChat! ;D
Have you tried the Forest Of Dean website?
www.forest-of-dean.net
I have tried before with not much luck. Have found other useful information though :)
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The GRO Index Search has had Mother's Maiden Name showing for just over a year :D
This will be shown for almost all births between 1837 and 1916.
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The GRO Index Search has had Mother's Maiden Name showing for just over a year :D
This will be shown for almost all births between 1837 and 1916.
Trying to have a look now, not having much luck at the moment. I never found birth certificates. Just baptism records. Assumed this was because they were travellers
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Oh dear - they were in Monmouth on 1901, so this could be the youngest child's birth, but it isn't a lot of help as it gives his mother's maiden name as Johns!
JOHNS, MARK mmn JOHNS
1898 M Quarter
MONMOUTH
Volume 11A Page 24
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Oh dear - they were in Monmouth on 1901, so this could be the youngest child's birth, but it isn't a lot of help as it gives his mother's maiden name as Johns!
JOHNS, MARK mmn JOHNS
1898 M Quarter
MONMOUTH
Volume 11A Page 24
Thanks groom, literally just found that record. Just have to try and find a family with eliza and sister sarah to confirm if she was a johns. I know that cousins did marry in the family so cpuld be right
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Hi the family were in Westbury on Severn in 1891 census, RG12/2004/60/2, has the birth registration Comfort JONES June qtr 1885 Westbury S 6a 261 mmn Davis been looked at?
Keyboard86
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Hi the family were in Westbury on Severn in 1891 census, RG12/2004/60/2, has the birth registration Comfort JONES June qtr 1885 Westbury S 6a 261 mmn Davis been looked at?
Keyboard86
That's very close to where her birth is given on a census - Cinderford, Gloucestershire.
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Hi the family were in Westbury on Severn in 1891 census, RG12/2004/60/2, has the birth registration Comfort JONES June qtr 1885 Westbury S 6a 261 mmn Davis been looked at?
Keyboard86
Thanks i will look into this. I often get mistaken when i say johns for jones. Being unable to read or write could have potentially led to jones being recorded instead of johns
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Hi again on that 1891 census William had a newly married brother Mark b 1862 Breconshire married to a Carnation and children, in 1881 he is with a wonderful group in 3, Gipsy Tents in East Dean, Westbury on Severn
Census ref RG11/2523/110/9
Keyboard86
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Hi again on that 1891 census William had a newly married brother Mark b 1862 Breconshire married to a Carnation and children, in 1881 he is with a wonderful group in 3, Gipsy Tents in East Dean, Westbury on Severn
Census ref RG11/2523/110/9
Keyboard86
Thanks I am aware or Mark and Carnation. There never seems to be a census of mark and william together when they were children although williams parents were using John not johns.
I have checked my family tree and i have a davis link already from one of william and elizas children marrying a hodgkins/hopkins/hoskins grandmother so it would seem that davis was linked to travellers in that area, going to look more into it
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Hi again on the 1911 census were William/Eliza married c 32 years, if so who is the adopted daughter Elizabeth b 1878 East Dean on the 1891 above?
Keyboard86
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Hi again on the 1911 census were William/Eliza married c 32 years, if so who is the adopted daughter Elizabeth b 1878 East Dean on the 1891 above?
Keyboard86
The years married and ages of children vary quite a lot with the various censuses. Trying to find out who Elizabeth is, is next on the list
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My husbands grandmother was lena jones nee Hodgins from woolhope Herefordshire.
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My husbands grandmother was lena jones nee Hodgins from woolhope Herefordshire.
Lina was my great nans (mary ann) mother
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Do you live in The Forest of Dean?
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Sorry I can see you live in the Forest. Your great grandmother was my father in laws sister.
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Are you on Facebook?
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Was your grandmother Ada?
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Was your grandmother Ada?
Sorry im not sure who Ada is, my g grandmother was Mary Ann and her son Sid Johns was my grandad. Not on Facebook sorry
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My email address is (*). I have some information about the Hodgkins family and where they came from. Where are you living in the Forest of Dean?.
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Moli, don't leave your e-mail address there unless you want to get inundated with spam! A Mod will probably remove it. You can contact GJohns via the PM system and exchange email addresses there in private.