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Title: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Greensleeves on Friday 22 December 17 18:47 GMT (UK)
This is an extract from the death certificate of Hans Toresen, my 5x gt grandfather, retired Mariner, who died at the Greenwich Hospital in 1849, aged 77.  I can read some of this but not all, so would appreciate some help with this cause of death, if possible.

Regards
GS
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: avm228 on Friday 22 December 17 18:50 GMT (UK)
Vertigo - progressive
Anasarca senilitas - for a long while
Diarrhoea - 2 days

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Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 23 December 17 04:36 GMT (UK)
I'd agree with avm
Though I've never heard of Vertigo being a cause of death - unless it made you fall off a high building, or fall over and hit your head severely enough to cause death.

More likely the diarrhoea for 2 days - in an elderly person, just as in the very young child,  this can cause enough dehydration to be fatal.

Dawn M
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 23 December 17 05:45 GMT (UK)
Anasarca is an old term meaning oedema (often caused by liver failure) or possibly in this case just a side effect of old age.

Wiggy
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 23 December 17 09:57 GMT (UK)
I wonder whether by "vertigo" they really meant orthostatic hypotension.

Taken together with oedema (the anasarca) and GI problems (the diarrhoea), this would be consistent with an underlying condition such as amyloidosis, which is rare but serious.

On the other hand he may just have had chronic symptoms of e.g. heart failure and then got a tummy bug.
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 23 December 17 12:57 GMT (UK)
I wonder whether by "vertigo" they really meant orthostatic hypotension.

Taken together with oedema (the anasarca) and GI problems (the diarrhoea), this would be consistent with an underlying condition such as amyloidosis, which is rare but serious.

On the other hand he may just have had chronic symptoms of e.g. heart failure and then got a tummy bug.
Could be either - but we have to remember this was 1849 ??? ???

Dawn M
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Greensleeves on Saturday 23 December 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much, everyone, for helping with this.  Hans and his wife, Barbara, were Norwegian, and he was a mariner.  They settled in Rotherhithe where I believe there was quite a large Norwegian community.  After his wife's death, he went to live in the Greenwich Hospital.  I believe that Greenwich was for retired sailors from the Royal Navy.
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 December 17 19:29 GMT (UK)


Yes, I agree - Vertigo  =  progressive
Anasarca senilitas  -  for a long while
2 days Diarrhoea

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Merry Christmas
Sandra
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Greensleeves on Saturday 23 December 17 20:53 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Sandra.  And once more a big thank-you to everyone who has helped with this, and Happy Christmas to you all!   :)

GS
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: crimea1854 on Wednesday 27 December 17 08:39 GMT (UK)
There is an index to the Greenwich Hospital Registers on Kevin Asplin's website, this shows that he entered the GH in 1834 ( http://www.britishmedals.us/files/greenwich32to38.htm). There is an offer on the site to provide more information, so a direct approach to Kevin might open up a whole new avenue of research.

Martin
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 27 December 17 11:06 GMT (UK)
The GH records, including applications (ADM 6) and admissions of in-pensioners (ADM 73), are now on FindMyPast, with images.

The relevant admission records for this man are there:
ADM 6/241 (Register of Candidates), under Hans TORRISON
ADM 73/40 (General Entry Book), misindexed as Hans TONISON
ADM 73/59 (Rough Entry Book), misindexed as Hans TOMSON
ADM 73/68 (Entry Book), misindexed as Hans TENISON.
Title: Re: Hans Torison cause of death
Post by: Greensleeves on Wednesday 27 December 17 12:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for that information, Crimea and Bookbox.  Extremely useful, I am much obliged to both of you for your help.

Kind regards
GS