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Can anyone find a marriage registration for Robert Dunton (b. 1802? 04?06? Brancaster Norfolk, d. 1880 Grimsby Lincs) to Frances (sometimes called Fanny, b. 1797? 1801? Brancaster Norfolk d. 1879 Docking Norfolk)? Probably in Brancaster or Docking, Norfolk.
1841: Brancaster, Norfolk. Robert Dunton 39, Fanny 40, son William 2.
1861: Docking, Norfolk. Robert Dunton 55, Frances 60, son David 16.
1871: Docking, Norfolk. Robert Dunton 67, Frances 74.
Thanks.
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Williams mother m/n Grimes
Davids motherm/n Goimer
GRO registration district Docking Union
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I assume you have all of their children so you can narrow down the marriage year
Frances Maria 19th July 1835,abode Brancaster father a labourer
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Frances Lake a widower and Robert Dunton
5th April 1832
I can't read the witness names
very faded transcript,looks like Brancaster Norfolk
minister Henry Holloway
both sign x
possible witness Robert Parcloth and Alice Larkiman someone may be able to transcribe it better
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Brancaster in the county of Norfolk 1820
John Lake, Singleman and Frances Grimes of this parish singlewoman were married in this church by banns
this day the 11th February in the year 1820
by me William Bolton,rector
both signed x
witnessed by Ann Lake and Jane Pickering
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first child
1st May 1820
Robert Lake
son of John and Frances abode Brancaster,father a labourer
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That is fantastic, Radcliff!
Thank you so much. I have been searching for that marriage for months. Has opened up another branch of my tree.
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it was under Dunton on Familysearch org checked the bishops transcripts it and it was yours
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I'm returning to this old thread in the hope that someone can help me take these lines further back. Having now established the marriage of Robert Dunton and Frances Lake nee Grimes, I can't find any birth/baptism registration for either of them. Both are living in Brancaster, 1841-71.Details again:
Robert Dunton:
1841, born Brancaster abt. 1802.
No sign of him or family in 1851.
1861, born Holkham, abt. 1806
1871, born Brancaster, abt. 1804.
Frances Grimes:
1861, born Brancaster, abt. 1801.
1871, born Brancaster, abt. 1797.
Any help gratefully received.
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Both per FreeReg:
Frances Grimes b.10/9/1799, bp.17/11/1799 Brancaster, dau. of Thomas Grimes and Mary Wilkinson
Nothing in Brancaster for a Robert Dunton BUT there was just one couple having children baptised in Holkham in the relevant period - a Thomas Dunton and Elizabeth Pace:
George bp.6/12/1798
Ann bp.12/6/1801, bur.2/5/1802
Thomas bp.13/5/1803
Thomas bp.5/6/1806
Mary Ann bp.2/7/1809
I first assumed the first Thomas must have died but this doesn't seem to be the case - no infant burial - you will find him on the census bc.1802.
So, as the first Thomas hadn't died I'm wondering if the second 'Thomas' bp.1806 was a mistake on the part of the vicar, and that it should actually be your Robert. No way to prove it of course but seems a logical explanation.
Annette
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Brancaster baptism for
Frances Grimes
born 10th Sptember 1799
baptised 17 Nov
daughter of Thomas and Mary Grimes,late Wilkinson
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Thanks Radcliffe and Annette7.
Don't know how I missed that on FreeReg.
And the assumption about the Duntons seems very reasonable. It would certainly explain why I couldn't find him elsewhere. I am realising that mistakes like this happen a lot!
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Another query in this continuing story.
I can see from the quoted entry from FreeReg that Frances Grimes was born to Thomas Grimes and Mary Wilkinson. However, the only likely marriage for the couple seems to be Thomas Grymes and MARGARET Wilkerson, 17/11/1788, Burnham Overy, Norfolk, which is close to Brancaster and Holkham. I am assuming the Margaret/Mary could be another transcription error, or have I missed yet another marriage here??
Assuming this Wilkinson is the right person, there is a Margaret Wilkinson born to Samuel and Cecelie, bpt. 8/1/1767 Bedale, Norfolk. Bedale is in Yorkshire not Norfolk,, and on both Ancestry and Family Search, the transcripts state bpt. Bedale Norfolk, residence Bedale York.!! Anyone come across this duplication before or any explanation? Is it possible that Bedale Norfolk is short for Burnham Deepdale, which would again be the right area in Norfolk. But why the reference to Bedale York as residence?
As a footnote, there is another Margaret Grimes born to Samuel and Cecelie in 1761 but dies the same year. Again the bpt and burial records are Bedale Norfolk.
Thanks in advance for any expertise in unraveling this.
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I would say that possibly on the original page for Frances' baptism, mother Margaret has been written as 'Marg.' and taken as 'Mary' when transcribed. The fact that it's the same surname as 2 earlier children born to Thomas and Margaret (1794 and 1797) I would say Margaret was indeed her mother.
As to the entry for Bedale, Norfolk - this is clearly an error on the part of familysearch as the parents had other children baptised in Bedale, Yorkshire.
Annette
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the baptism gave you was not from free reg but from the Bishops transcripts the writing isn't the best
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Thanks again Annette and Radcliff. Always useful to get your input.