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Can anyone tell me where to find records of orphans sent to the Training ship Exmouth in the 1870's & 1880's please?
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http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/TSExmouth/
Looks like the records for the Metropolitan Asylums Board are held at the National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8a6a0ca5-e347-4be2-b222-3747998c69b7
Sandra
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Training ship Exmouth - personal record books indexing project
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/the-collections/Pages/ts-exmouth.aspx
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra. Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.
Happy New Year
RMcD
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Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.
Not necessarily. The Boys’ Record Books for TS Exmouth (from March 1876 onwards) are now available on Ancestry, in the database London, England, TS Exmouth Training Ship Records, 1876-1918.
The indexing is far from perfect there, so another access route is via LMA’s own online catalogue, which gives each boy’s name and record number, and identifies gaps in the records. Once the appropriate record number has been identified, the entry can then be found by browsing Ancestry (from the panel on the right), rather than searching by name.
https://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/MAB.PDF (MAB/2512, starts at page 144).
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Thank you Sandra. Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.
Happy New Year
RMcD
You're very welcome. Good Luck
Happy New Year
Sandra
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Feedback really valuable - thank you. Sadly I can't find my orphan, Richard McDermott (born about 1871) in the list of boys sent to train on the Exmouth from the Brighton Poor School (South Metropolitan District School), so I guess he was sent somewhere else. Any ideas please. He ends up as a stoker in Royal Navy, dying in 1918 of disease.
Also, in his last report at South Metropolitan District School (1886, age 15 years) it states "Returned from situation" Is this a euphemism for something more specific?
Any ideas please?
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Also, in his last report at South Metropolitan District School (1886, age 15 years) it states "Returned from situation" Is this a euphemism for something more specific?
It usually means that the type of employment that had been allocated didn’t suit him, or his employer wasn’t satisfied, or they didn’t get on well, or some such reason. It’s a common enough remark in these registers, particularly with girls who’d been sent into domestic service.
Apart from the South Metropolitan School District’s admission/discharge records, there is a separate register which include listings of boys sent out for training, 1858-1902. This is held at LMA ...
SMSD/178 film X020/416
Register of enlistment into military bands and lists of boys sent to the training ships Goliath and Exmouth Arranged chronologically
I don’t think this register is on Ancestry, unless it’s been heavily disguised or merged with another series of SMSD registers (which is possible).
Presumably you've seen his service record in ADM 188? The catalogue entry (and what can be seen of the image) suggests he enlisted in 1890.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6676021
ADDED - this service record is on Ancestry, misindexed as McDernott.
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Fantastic! Thank you for the meaning of 'returned from situation' and for the further details you posted. I did not have any of the new info - so thank you again.
I've tried searching 'Richard McDernott' on Ancestry but get zero returns. Can you help a little more please?
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The RN service record is in Ancestry’s database called UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939. You can access that individual database from the Card Catalogue in the dropdown Search menu, accessed from the top menu bar.
Or, if you do a ‘global’ search from the Home page for Richard McDernott (tick the ‘exact’ boxes), the record should come up near the top of the results.
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Thank you. Worked perfectly.