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Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 13:12 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: Ayashi on Saturday 30 December 17 13:28 GMT (UK)
Is there a chance that he might have been adopted and his name changed?
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 13:31 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 30 December 17 13:34 GMT (UK)
If he was adopted, any birth certificate you order for him will be endorsed "adopted" on the far right-hand side (without further details).
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: AntonyMMM on Saturday 30 December 17 13:38 GMT (UK)
Any death would be registered in the usual way.

Start with the birth certificate, as suggested previously.
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: Guy Etchells on Saturday 30 December 17 13:42 GMT (UK)
If the child died in his/her early years there should be a record in the GRO deaths index more recent deaths are not on the online index but may be seen at one of seven locations
•   Library of Birmingham
•   Bridgend Local and Family History Centre
•   City of Westminster Archives Centre
•   Manchester Central Library
•   Newcastle City Library
•   Plymouth Central Library
•   The British Library (you’ll need to register first)
If still alive
This is one of those cases where technology is a drawback rather than an advantage, a few years ago I would have said try telephone directories but now most use mobiles this does not really help.

Electoral registers may help as could things like Facebook and linked-in there are databases available to finance companies but these are very expensive and hard for individuals to get access to (but not impossible) these databases are the most comprehensive behind electoral registers.
There are other methods but this is a start

Cheers
Guy

Assuming in England & Wales
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 13:42 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: AntonyMMM on Saturday 30 December 17 13:46 GMT (UK)
When you say "record of birth" what exactly have you got .... information from the index, or an actual birth certificate ?

The note "adopted" is added to the original birth register entry when an adoption takes place, which could be weeks, months or years after the birth. Any certificates issued before the date of adoption won't show the note, any issued later will.
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: Ayashi on Saturday 30 December 17 13:48 GMT (UK)
When you've looked for the death, have you only looked in the same area as the birth or all over the country? There's always potential that he went elsewhere.

I'm not sure how Rootschat policy would handle this- it's against the rules to search for living people but given that this person is expected to have died perhaps we might be allowed to attempt to search for it?
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 13:49 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: AntonyMMM on Saturday 30 December 17 13:52 GMT (UK)
I just have information from the index , not the certificate itself.

Then order a certificate from GRO (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp) or from the registration office in the district in which the birth was registered. You will then know if there was an adoption, and having the exact date of birth will help to narrow down potential death registrations (if the name was changed).
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 14:02 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: chempat on Saturday 30 December 17 14:22 GMT (UK)
Have your parents ever approached the social authorities for information about him?
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 14:28 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: chempat on Saturday 30 December 17 14:34 GMT (UK)
Where were you looking for his death - freebmd or another source?
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 14:41 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: Ayashi on Saturday 30 December 17 15:52 GMT (UK)
Is the name a particularly common one?

I'm sure a few of us could have a go at looking if you are happy for us to know the name, the date and place of birth (the latter can simply be the information on the birth index). No promises, but a few people here do have eagle eyes and bendy minds.
Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 16:26 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: johnallan on Saturday 30 December 17 16:27 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Tracing living relative
Post by: josey on Saturday 30 December 17 16:35 GMT (UK)
You could send a personal message [pm] with the name & GRO birth reference [as well as the details from the birth certificate when you get it] to anyone who asks for it, that way the name will not appear on this public forum. Click on the text icon below a member's profile & you can send a pm.

From the GRO the certificates are available as .pdf files at the moment for £6. Normally they are £9.25.See the link given by AntonyMMM