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Title: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 02 January 18 12:25 GMT (UK)
1841 census Parliament Street Knaresborough H0107/11/5/3
Bridget Fawcett age 25 1816 Ireland
James son age 5 1836 Ireland
Elizabeth dau age 3 Ireland
Robert Hall age 35 1806
Cannot find Bridget and family on 1851 census, would appreciate someone taking a look for me.
Have Bridget on 1861 census with husband Peter RG09/3204/87
Thank you Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:08 GMT (UK)
The 1861 you quote has her aged 54, so gaining 30 years in the 20 years between 1841 and 1861.

What makes you believe they are the same?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M712-84K (1861 census, knaresborough reg district)
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:15 GMT (UK)
I had wondered if the Bridget in 1841 married Thomas Prest Dec qtr 1842. 

1851
Thomas   Prest    30   bn Yorkshire
Bridget   Prest   33   bn Dublin
Henry   Prest      6   
Juliana   Prest      3   
George   Prest      Infant   
Elizabeth   Fawcett   Daughter-In-Law   12   bn Gibraltar (?)   
James   Thompson   Son-In-Law           15   
Prest children bn Harrogate


HO107/2282 f370 p21
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:16 GMT (UK)
I was given the information on Bridget by a relative, should have checked it myself
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
1841 census Parliament Street Knaresborough H0107/11/5/3
Bridget Fawcett age 25 1816 Ireland
James son age 5 1836 Ireland
Elizabeth dau age 3 Ireland
Robert Hall age 35 1806
Cannot find Bridget and family on 1851 census, would appreciate someone taking a look for me.
Have Bridget on 1861 census with husband Peter RG09/3204/87
Thank you Sheila

The image for 1841 says Elizabeth age 3 was N (not born in county)  Bridget & James both have I (Ireland)
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you rosie99 will follow the prest family and see if that is my Bridget.
Thanks to Paulinej wii recheck my info
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:17 GMT (UK)
Hi.


Rosies find looks right...

Thomas Prest  of full age father Peter
Bridget Fawcett of full age of harrogate father James Thompson
26 December 1842
Tazzie
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:54 GMT (UK)
Thankyou tazzie for the information, could you tell me where you got the marriage details from?
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 02 January 18 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hi

Yorkshire marriages on FindMyPast....the church was St Mary Knaresborough

Tazzie
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 02 January 18 17:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information tazzie
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Thursday 04 January 18 08:29 GMT (UK)
I have found the birth of Elizabeth Fawcett 1838 Gibraltar, in the GRO birth indices 1761 to 1924, it says of 82nd of foot volume 96 page 35, would I be able to get a copy of this, to possibly find her fathers name?
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 04 January 18 08:39 GMT (UK)
You order from www.gro.gov.uk

Update us when the cert arrives. Regards, Pauline
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Thursday 04 January 18 08:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks Pauline, have ordered it, will let you know when it arrives.
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hello Pauline, have received the birth cert for Elizabeth Fawcett born Gibraltar, it confirms er mother was Bridget but father was John, so this is not my family as James Fawcetts father was Peter. So can put this line to bed.
Thanks for your help
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Pauline, have received the birth cert for Elizabeth Fawcett born Gibraltar, it confirms er mother was Bridget but father was John, so this is not my family as James Fawcetts father was Peter. So can put this line to bed.
Thanks for your help
Sheila

did it give a maiden name for Bridget
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
No did not give her maiden name, but it was Thompson,that was the name of her son James in the 1851 census, she had him as Fawcett on the 1841 census
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 16:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Pauline, have received the birth cert for Elizabeth Fawcett born Gibraltar, it confirms er mother was Bridget but father was John, so this is not my family as James Fawcetts father was Peter. So can put this line to bed.
Thanks for your help
Sheila

Do you have his baptism to confirm this or is it from another source  :-\
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 16:07 GMT (UK)
On Bridget's marriage to Thomas prest she states her father as James Thompson
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 16:15 GMT (UK)
I was really wondering where the information came from that Peter was the father of James Fawcett/Thompson.  Is James your direct line  :-\

.............................
1861
Bridget Prest - wid -51 bn Ireland   
Henry Prest 17   
Julia   Prest   12   
George Prest 10   
Polly   Fawcett Grandchild 5
Children all bn Harrogate.

RG09 /3207 f34 p24.
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 16:20 GMT (UK)
James thompson Fawcett is not my James Fawcett, my James has the father Peter,we have his marriage cert to Ann Burgoyne 1866 and have him going forward from then, 1871 1881 1891 1901 he died 1902.
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 16:34 GMT (UK)
If you would like us to continue looking for your James on census prior to 1871 could you please give us the details including reference number from that census.

If the sole source of James father being Peter is on his marriage certificate please bear in mind that this information was sometimes wrong.

Hope we can help  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 16:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reply Rosie,  my Fawcett family came from Sligo, the Bridget Fawcett who married Thomas prest came from Dublin, saw this on a census. I have what I think could be my James martin Fawcett on the 1861 census he has himself as Martin Fawcett age 28 born Ireland occupation Tinner
With wife Elizabeth age 23, I think his wife was Elizabeth Proctor married 1858, RG09 3541 99 5 Hill top Tadcaster. Is there anyway I can prove this is my james Fawcett without buying the marriage cert.
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 17:12 GMT (UK)
I see he was also Martin in 1871 and James M when he died.  :)  It is generally easier to work backwards, that is probably why we were having problems finding him.  ;)

16 Nov 1858 -    Knaresborough, St Mary
Martin Fawcett - Full Age - father PETER Fawcett
Elizabeth Procter - Full Age - abode Knaresborough - father William Procter


Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 17:19 GMT (UK)
There is a possible for him in 1851 but he is a lodger
HO107 / 2287 f517 p7
Martin Fawcett age 19 occ Wool Comber bn Ireland
He is living in Keighley
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 17:23 GMT (UK)
1851-Sharps Yard, Bingley, Yorkshire
H0107/2286 f95 p13
Peter & Bridget  :-\

Petter Fassett 40 -not able to work
Bridget 40 -Hawker of potts
Ann 14
Ellen 13
James 8
Briget 6

You are probably better looking at the places of birth in Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPMS-1HK
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 17:38 GMT (UK)
It looks as though the family did not come to England until the mid/late 1840's
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Sunday 14 January 18 18:01 GMT (UK)
Thankyou rosie99 Really appreciate your help finding this family, as I said previously I have JM Fawcett and family on census from 1901 down to 1871
JMdied 1902. Have Peter and Bridgett Fawcett on 1861 census wasn't sure this was JMs mother and father,but you have just confirmed they must be his parents Peter is 54 Bridgett is 54 both born Ireland living at Gas House Buildings knaresboroug. I have Peter dying 1863
Thankyou
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 January 18 18:02 GMT (UK)
Glad we got it sorted out  :)
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 13 March 18 07:16 GMT (UK)
1851 census Fawcett family HO107 2286 f95 p13
Petter Fasset(Peter Fawcett) says born Lathrum?
 Bridget wife born Sligo
Ann dau born Lathrum?
Ellen dau born Lathrum?
James son born Sligo town
Bridget dau born Sligo town
Cannot find a place called Lathrum, wondered if it could possibly be Rathbraughan? Thinking maybe the enumerator wrote what he thought he heard same as with the Fawcett name. Would appreciate someone taking a look at this for me.
Sheila
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 13 March 18 10:58 GMT (UK)
Leitrim?
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 13 March 18 11:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks aghadowey, will take a look at Leitrim
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: dathai on Thursday 15 March 18 10:30 GMT (UK)
Tithe Applotments 1834
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lr4/
Title: Re: Bridget Fawcett 1851 census
Post by: slaw on Thursday 15 March 18 11:43 GMT (UK)
Thankyou  dathai will look at those.