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Title: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:56 GMT (UK)
I am quite curious about a William Jones given as born c 1829 and living with his wife Margaret,also given as born c 1829,living in Cefn Mawr Ruabon Denbighshire in the 1861 Census.They are showing with a daughter Sarah born c 1860.As Margaret's surname is also apparently Jones,I'm having great difficulty in finding a marriage for the couple.There is a possible marriage in 1851 at St Giles Wrexham but there is no sign of any other children older than Sarah.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 13:57 GMT (UK)
William apparently dies in 1868.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:13 GMT (UK)
The 1851 couple were from Minera. Both fathers and William down as farmers. Married 5th May.

It doesn't sound like your couple.


Gadget
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks,yes I didn't really fancy the marriage.

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William Russell Jones
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:32 GMT (UK)
There's  one in Oswestry - 5 May 1861. I wonder if they married after Sarah and census. Not finding any others suitable so far.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:39 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 14:32 GMT (UK)
There's  one in Oswestry - 5 May 1861. I wonder if they married after Sarah and census. Not finding any others suitable so far.

its possible I suppose.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:02 GMT (UK)
 Looking at possible births for William and Margaret's children,I'm leaning towards Margaret's surname not being Jones.Opening in three seperate tabs possible births for Sarah,Edward and David,there seems to be one possible strong common surname,that of Lloyd.Doesn't really help marriage wise though unfortunately.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:06 GMT (UK)
Interestingly there is a Margaret Lloyd in 1851 given as the daughter of a David Lloyd.

William Russell Jones
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:16 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage at St Giles Wrexham in 1856 between a William Jones and a Margaret Lloyd.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:22 GMT (UK)
1856 marriage

3 May 1856
William, 27 , collier , Broughton
Father - John Jones, collier

Margaret, 27 -, Broughton
Father - David Lloyd, miller
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:26 GMT (UK)
The David/Margaret Lloyd fits,they are living in Dynhylle Issa in 1851,no sign of any other.

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William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:27 GMT (UK)
The David Lloyd I mentioned is given a s a Miller.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
Quote from: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:27 GMT (UK)
The David Lloyd I mentioned is given a s a Miller.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Looks good then.

Have you found William with father John?
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:32 GMT (UK)
One I was curious about when searching is one given as the son of a John and Mary "Williams"?

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William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:37 GMT (UK)
There is also one to be curious about given as the son of a Sarah Jones living in Stryt Issa in 1851.

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William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:44 GMT (UK)
Also a possible

Baptism, Ruabon
Oct 26 1828 William son of John and Margaret, Street Isaf. Occ - Jagger
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks,yes also a possible.

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William Russell Jones
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:56 GMT (UK)
FreeReg

Rhos, Bethlehem
bpt 14 march 1830 b. 7 Feb 1830
John Jones and Ann Williams

Also a few non-c  in Wrexham that are worth checking.
Title: Re: Just Curious For Now.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 02 January 18 16:04 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Gadget on Tuesday 02 January 18 15:56 GMT (UK)
FreeReg

Rhos, Bethlehem
bpt 14 march 1830 b. 7 Feb 1830
John Jones and Ann Williams

Also a few non-c  in Wrexham that are worth checking.

Thanks Gadget,of course its not the rarest of names.lolAlso that damn missing 1841 Census!

Regards
William Russell Jones.