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Title: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 06 January 18 16:17 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know why there is a burial enclosure in the graveyard of Linton Parish Kirk with memorials to this Lord Trimleston and relatives? The title is Irish, and I have yet to find any other evidence of a connection to Scotland, let alone Linton.
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 06 January 18 16:30 GMT (UK)
Not sure if it makes any difference, but the correct title is:
Thomas Barnewall, 16th Baron Trimlestown (1796–1879)
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 06 January 18 17:30 GMT (UK)
Not a lot of difference :)
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: barbara13511 on Sunday 07 January 18 13:52 GMT (UK)
There is a stone

Thomas Barnewall 16th Lord Trimieston born 14.4.1796 died 4.8.1879 and only found that through using Barnewall.  Trimieston not in index.
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: ev on Sunday 07 January 18 14:59 GMT (UK)
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/familygroup.php?familyID=F14417&tree=tree1

Does the husband(Robert Henry Elliot) of Thomas Barnewall's daughter have a connection to Linton ?

Robert H Elliot and his wife are on the 1881 Census at Clifton Park Linton Roxburgh.



ev
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: isobelw on Sunday 07 January 18 15:13 GMT (UK)
Long shot, but I wonder if the link is through his daughter Anna Maria Louisa who was married to Robert Henry Elliot. There is a death on SP for a Robert Henry Elliot who died at Linton in 1914 age 76. Can't see any other records prior to this that relate to him ( e.g. 1911 census) and nothing on Anna Maria.
Isobel
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: barbara13511 on Sunday 07 January 18 17:13 GMT (UK)
Graves next to Thomas Barnewall are of the Elliots including Ann Maria Louisa Elliot 1838-1914 

There are a few others, all seem to be of Clifton Park.

Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: ev on Sunday 07 January 18 17:43 GMT (UK)
From a Will on SP-
Anna Maria Louisa Elliot......Hon. wife of Robert Henry Elliot , of Clifton Park d. 16th April 1914 at Sea , on board S.S. Arabia.........



ev
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: Sunlaws on Monday 08 January 18 13:29 GMT (UK)
An interesting addition, from 'The Country Houses, castles and Mansions of Roxburghshire' (Bernard Byrom 2015):
'The mansion (Clifton Park) was the former home of Thomas Robert Barnewall Elliot who owned the first motor car in Scotland, a three and a half horsepower Panhard, which he imported from France in 1895. The following year he was charged at Berwick Police Court with using a horseless carriage on a public highway without causing a person to precede it on foot by at least 20 yards while carrying a red flag; although the magistrates sympathised with him he was fined 6d with costs of 19s7d. The Elliots sold the property in 1950 and unfortunately it nowadays stands roofless, unloved and abandoned'.
Regards,
Lesley
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 08 January 18 13:57 GMT (UK)
Lesley, the description lives up to its image sadly http://haygenealogy.com/hay/scotland/cliftonpark.jpg

May be for the Coach House and stables? www.buildingsatrisk.org.uk/details/893607

Monica
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimlestown (1796-1879)
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 10 January 18 18:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you, that does seem to answer the question of his lordship's connection to Linton. It still seems curious that he should, apparently, have been buried there - he died in London, so why take him all the way to Linton?
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: barbara13511 on Thursday 11 January 18 16:50 GMT (UK)
It may just be a memorial to him rather than an actual body?
Title: Re: Thomas Barnewall, 16th Lord Trimleston (1796-1879)
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 11 January 18 17:40 GMT (UK)
Could be. His obituaries in The Times and the St Peter Post Star (both of which spell his title Trimleston) don't say anything about where he was buried.