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Title: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Saturday 06 January 18 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi my uncles James pyott born 1916 and Colin pyott born 1909 both Port Glasgow Scotland UK. James moved to New Zealand after the second world war not sure when and Colin immigrated to New Zealand I believe late sixties early seventies. I would like as much info as to date of arrival, employment and date and place of death. Thank you very much for any help I receive. Yours Ian pyott.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 06 January 18 19:07 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

There is a James Pyott (33) sailing from Southampton in 1950;  occupation shown as plater's helper.

Do you know what his occupation was?
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 06 January 18 19:11 GMT (UK)
A death registration for a Colin Pyott, date of birth 30/11/1909, in 1992.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Saturday 06 January 18 19:13 GMT (UK)
Colin Pyott is in the NZ Electoral Rolls starting in 1969 where he is by himself at 24 Caudelands Road GHamilton Waikato. occupation labourer
The last one in 1981 he is at 134 Surrey crescent Central Auckland, no other Pyotts listed at ths address and occupation still a labourer.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Saturday 06 January 18 19:18 GMT (UK)
In 1972 he is at 34 Le Roy terrace Birkenhead Auckland. Occupation - Lagger. Again no other Pyott at that address but there is a Sylvia M M Pyott at 320 Rangatira Road, married. 1978 he is the only Pyott at 14 King street Mt. Albert
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Saturday 06 January 18 19:23 GMT (UK)
There are two listings for Colin Pyott 1978. Th other has him at 16/5 Edgars road Auckland central. Again no other Pyotts at that address
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 06 January 18 19:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.   Have asked for this thread to be moved to the open NZ Board, as this has been posted on the Resources and Offers Board.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Saturday 06 January 18 19:28 GMT (UK)
Death Registration
James Pyott
Death Date 1958
Registration place Dunedin, New Zealand
Folio Number - 4680

There were Pyotts in the SI in 1927 looking on papers past

The above James born 1884 according to NZ cemetery records. There is another one
 James Pyott
Died 23 Feb 1969
 Place -  Dunedin
Buried Otago, New Zealand
Cemetery = Andersons Bay
Spouse - Margaret Poytt died 23 Feb 1969

Probably not yours either as there is a James Pyott in the NZ Electoral Rolls in Auckland in 1978. He's at 135 Howe street central Auckland, occupation Cook.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Saturday 06 January 18 19:40 GMT (UK)
In 1981 Electoral Roll James Pyott is the only Pyott recorded at 18 Margot Street Onehunga Auckland. For occupation it says - Beneficiary.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 06 January 18 19:48 GMT (UK)
Death Registration
James Pyott
Death Date 1958
Registration place Dunedin, New Zealand
Folio Number - 4680


That one was 74 years old, a Native of Scotland and had been in NZ for 44 years.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Saturday 06 January 18 20:05 GMT (UK)
To my knowledge I have no relationships to pyott in New Zealand until after the second world war my uncle James being the first.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: kentishkiwi on Sunday 07 January 18 00:07 GMT (UK)
Hi
Colin emigrated to NZ 1963 aged 53 years on ship 'Rangitane' from London. Record shows him as single and a textile worker.
James emigrated in 1950 aged 33 on ship Atlantis from Southampton
Both records available on Family Search.

Regards KK
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: crisane on Sunday 07 January 18 00:41 GMT (UK)
Hi
Colin emigrated to NZ 1963 aged 53 years on ship 'Rangitane' from London. Record shows him as single and a textile worker.
James emigrated in 1950 aged 33 on ship Atlantis from Southampton
Both records available on Family Search.

Regards KK

On the original image on ancestry it gives James' address in the UK as 103 Parchill Ave Port Glasgow. His occupation was Plater's helper.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Sunday 07 January 18 09:10 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone for all your help. I will check all your answers. Yours Ian
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: kentishkiwi on Sunday 07 January 18 11:19 GMT (UK)
Hi
As someone has already found Colin in the NZ electoral rolls I took a look for James and once I  noted down the other James Pyott I believe your James is the only other candidate left.
1957 He resides at Burns House , Mosgiel, Mornington Otago as a mill worker. He is still there in 1963 but the area down as Central Otago. In 1972 he is in Sydenham Cantebury as a cook.1978 he has moved north to Auckland but is still a cook. I haven't found a death but of course he may still be alive or hopped across the water to Australia.
I know you said you didn't know of any Pyotts in NZ before your uncles but don't you think it is a bit of a coincidence James went down to Otago for work when the other family was there. Perhaps another family strand to check out. It is an unusual name. The other family emigrated in 1914.
Hope this helps a bit. If you are interested there is some good info on the internet about Arthur Burns and his mills and how he looked after his employees.
I worked out Colin's date of death from the online NZ records as 20/05/1992 but haven't found any burial/cremation. Perhaps someone in NZ has better access.

Regards
KK
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Sunday 07 January 18 11:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you again for your help will have a look at all your advice yours Ian pyott
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 11 January 18 22:58 GMT (UK)
A telephone call to Auckland Library has established that the death of Colin Pyott was registered in Auckland. However I have not found a cemetery record for him, as yet.

I wonder if this may be his brother James, with surname spelt incorrectly?

Purewa Cemetery:(This is in Auckland)......

Surname   PYATT
First Names   James
Age   66 Years
Gender   Male
Date of Death   09 May 1982
Religion   Salvation Army
Serial No   43033
Date of Service and/or Interment   12 May 1982
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director   J Weir & Co. Ltd, 473 Great South Road, Papatoetoe, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal   Scattered

The funeral directors may be able to provide more information. [You should cut & paste the above cemetery details when making contact.]

http://weirs.co.nz/galleries/mangere/

Death registration:

1982/32577   Pyatt     James   3 October 1916


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 January 18 09:06 GMT (UK)
From reply #4.......

In 1972 he is at 34 Le Roy terrace Birkenhead Auckland. Occupation - Lagger. Again no other Pyott at that address but there is a Sylvia M M Pyott at 320 Rangatira Road, married. 1978 he is the only Pyott at 14 King street Mt. Albert


Out of curiosity I looked for the lady mentioned above. This may be one and the same?....

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22719372


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Friday 12 January 18 09:33 GMT (UK)
Minniehaha thank you everything looks good except name date of birth is correct. I find the name problem a lot so many variations. Thanks again Ian.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 January 18 20:25 GMT (UK)
Hello Ian,

With the surname being rare here, either spelling, I think we can be sure that the James found, is indeed your man; the birth date being the clincher.

I will see if there was a newspaper death notice for Colin. If there was one for James, the funeral directors will hopefully provide you with the details........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: Ian Pyott on Friday 12 January 18 20:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks again..
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 January 18 02:45 GMT (UK)
Hello Ian,

I now have the death notice for Colin Pyott which I can pass on to you if you can send me your e-mail address by personal message.........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Help with finding about my uncles.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 January 18 20:50 GMT (UK)
Sent........ :)


Minniehaha.