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Title: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Beverley Robinson on Friday 12 January 18 00:11 GMT (UK)
I am seeking information on Granville (Geroge) Cuncliffe-owen born around 1880. Came to Australia in 1913. Married Ada Catherine Longden in Tasmania 1917. Died 1928.
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-owen
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 12 January 18 00:17 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth registration?

Births June qtr 1878 
Culwick    Granville         Dover    2a 913    mothers maiden name Owen as per GRO online search

www.freebmd.org.uk

Have you looked for him on the 1881-1901 censuses which are available free on Family Search

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01egx/ 
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-owen
Post by: Beverley Robinson on Friday 12 January 18 01:30 GMT (UK)
 The problem is that on documents its states born Chile,  south America Ireland and England. The only verified documents are his arrival Hobart on Morayshire 1913 from England, marriage 1917
and death 1928. He was as Radiologist. I am interested in his life prior to 1913. Thanks
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 12 January 18 07:33 GMT (UK)
May I clarify what his surname is please?  Is it CUNLIFFE OR CUNCLIFFE?  Where does the OWEN name come from or are we looking at a double barrelled surname?

Do you have his marriage certificate?  If so does it state his father's name and occupation?

Do you have his death certificate?  If so does it say anything about his parents?

What information is there on his arrival at Hobart?  I am assuming there is a record of some sort as you mention the vessel as being the Morayshire.

This information may assist in finding out more about Granville.
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 12 January 18 08:38 GMT (UK)
The only possible passenger on the Morayshire which left 26th July 1913 is a Geo. C. Owen going to Hobart shown 28 (bc.1885) and described as 'Consulting Engr.'.

Can see no birth for him in England, or Ireland, nor can I find his arrival here between 1885 and 1913.

Annette
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 12 January 18 08:51 GMT (UK)
The closest birth I can find for Owen is this one:-

OWEN, GEORGE  CECIL     COOK     
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in WOOLWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1255

Unlikely to be the above, found a marriage which may be his.


Marriages Sep 1908   
OWEN    George Cecil        Preston    8e   1277    
THOMPSON    Margaret        Preston    8e   1277

If I have the correct George in 1911 his occupation is Soldier Trumpeter!
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: glenclare on Friday 12 January 18 09:01 GMT (UK)
Lots of documents and newspaper clips online.

On his sonís birth certificate it states
Father: George Granville Owen, 43 years old born Chili America.
That is 1926 in Adelaide

So date of birth from that would be 1882-4 depending when in the year he was born.
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 12 January 18 11:54 GMT (UK)
I think we need Beverley to come back and give us some clarity as per my reply #3
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 12 January 18 20:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

His marriage notice found at Trove says,

The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) 
Friday 29 June 1917

"CUNLIFFE-OWEN -- LONGDEN.  On the 31st May at Renton by Rev. Walter G. ROWE, Granville CUNLIFFE-OWEN eldest son of Mr and Mrs George Alexander CUNLIFFE-OWEN, Chili, South America to Ada Catherine third daughter of Mr and Mrs Walter LONGDEN, Geelong and granddaughter of Mrs LONGDEN and the late Captain LONGDEN, Geelong."


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Beverley Robinson on Friday 12 January 18 22:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks this is brilliant as it confirms his place of birth . I am doing this research for my cousin.this is her grandfather who died when her father was 2. Her father ran away when he was 15. What we are seeking is details of his life prior to 1913 when he arrived in Hobart. Have boarding pass.
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: Beverley Robinson on Saturday 17 February 18 03:13 GMT (UK)
 i Girl Guide sorry for delay in replying due illness Correct name is Granville Cuncliffe-owen.
I am now trying to find marriage for Cuncliffe-Owen and Ada Langon 31/5/1917. My cousin tells me it maybe Tasmania. Any help appreciated
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: majm on Saturday 17 February 18 03:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

His marriage notice found at Trove says,

The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) 
Friday 29 June 1917

"CUNLIFFE-OWEN -- LONGDEN.  On the 31st May at Renton by Rev. Walter G. ROWE, Granville CUNLIFFE-OWEN eldest son of Mr and Mrs George Alexander CUNLIFFE-OWEN, Chili, South America to Ada Catherine third daughter of Mr and Mrs Walter LONGDEN, Geelong and granddaughter of Mrs LONGDEN and the late Captain LONGDEN, Geelong."


Regards,
Daisy

Thanks this is brilliant as it confirms his place of birth . I am doing this research for my cousin.this is her grandfather who died when her father was 2. Her father ran away when he was 15. What we are seeking is details of his life prior to 1913 when he arrived in Hobart. Have boarding pass.

I cannot see how the cutting confirms he was born in Chile. The notice is stating his parents ARE there in 1917. The notice is based on info SUBMITTED to the newspaper, who would have no obligation to check if a) those were his parents and b) if they were alive and living in Chile in South America.

JM
Title: Re: Granville (george) Cuncliffe-Owen
Post by: majm on Saturday 17 February 18 06:54 GMT (UK)
here's the live link to Daisy's find from Trove for that marriage

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154978826 29 June 1917, The Age.

JM