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1841 Census HO107 / Piece 1057 / Folio 48 / Page 25. Henry Sadler b 1836
1851 Census HO107 / Piece 1572 / Folio 67 / Page 27. Henry Sadler b 1836
Ellen Sadler b 1843
1861 Census RG 09 / Piece 47 / Folio 92 / Page 33. Both Missing
1871 Census GBC / 1871 / 0772 /0049. Both Missing
1881 Census RG 11 / Piece 738 / Folio 140 / Page 41. Both Missing
1891 Census RG 12 / Piece 525 / Folio 140 / Page Both Missing
1901 Census RG 13 / Schedule 169 / Page 24 JANE SADLER b 1858 only
1911 Census. RG 14 / JANE SADLER. b 1858
Thank you all for looking,
My asking for help if possible please is on the above of HENRY SADLER b 1836 & ELLEN SADLER b 1843. They just seem to disappear after their last census entries's. Have not been able to find marriage certificate or a death certificate for either. JANE SADLER b 1858 seems to be the last surviving member of the family and dies in 1926. Any help appreciated, thank you all,
Regards JUST J
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You have posted on the beginners board. We should not have to look up each census entry to get info about the family.
You have not included any details of where they were born or where they were living in each census. No childrens details either
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Ellen Sadler full age father Joseph Sadler Carpenter married St. George the Martyr Southwark
Richard Dorrington, publican, full age, father Richard William Dorrington, publican
Witnesses John Mason(signed) and Louisa Spires (made her mark)
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This could be Henry's marriage
Marriages Sep 1861
Austin Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 490
SADLER Henry Lambeth 1d 490
Eldest child's birth reg.
SADLER, ANN AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 375
In 1871 this family are living at Cornwall Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey
Henry and Mary with six children. Henry's occupation is Bricklayer and born in Brixton.
Piece number 683
Folio 54
Page 3
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Okay so in the 1841 census we have Henry living with his parents Joseph and Jane and siblilngs Charles & Charlotte. Abode is Queens Head Court, St Mary Lambeth, Lambeth
Joseph is a carpenter as stated on Ellen's marriage details provided by Amondg
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And the bit that puzzled me, Jane referred to as b 1858, is the daughter of Charles.
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Henry who married Mary Ann Austin is possibly the son of Thomas and Harriet Sadler as he names a daughter Harriet.
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Transcription only on ancestry need to see the original for fathers names.
There is a Henry Sadler age 11 sentenced to 1 month hard labour 15 November 1850 at Newington for stealing pork
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Might this be his death
Henry Sadler death registered Jun qtr 1918 aged 81 Godstone RD, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 326
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Hi,
amondg is right about the Henry that marries Mary Ann AUSTIN. I can see the image at Ancestry "London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931", Henry's father is Thomas AUSTIN, bricklayer.
Regards,
Daisy
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amondg is right about the Henry that marries Mary Ann AUSTIN.
I can see the image at Ancestry "London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931", Henry's father is Thomas AUSTIN, bricklayer.
Daisy - Did you mix up surname?
marriage cert. gives
Henry's father Thomas SADLER, bricklayer
Mary Ann's father Robert AUSTIN d'cd labourer
Wintesses May Ann Austin and Js. L Ga(?)ter
Harriet Lydia Sadler bp Sep 19th 1866 St Matthew Brixham
Father Henry, bricklayer mother Mary Ann abode 6 Windmill St
William Sadler bp Oct 30th 1864
Father Henry, bricklayer mother Mary Ann abode Windmill St
also same place, same parents, Emma address 23 Cornwall St
Ellen Sadler bp 27 May 1868
Emma Sadler bp 13 Apr 1870
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1841 Census HO107 / Piece 1057 / Folio 48 / Page 25. Henry Sadler b 1836
1851 Census HO107 / Piece 1572 / Folio 67 / Page 27. Henry Sadler b 1836
Ellen Sadler b 1843
1861 Census RG 09 / Piece 47 / Folio 92 / Page 33. Both Missing
1871 Census GBC / 1871 / 0772 /0049. Both Missing
1881 Census RG 11 / Piece 738 / Folio 140 / Page 41. Both Missing
1891 Census RG 12 / Piece 525 / Folio 140 / Page Both Missing
1901 Census RG 13 / Schedule 169 / Page 24 JANE SADLER b 1858 only
1911 Census. RG 14 / JANE SADLER. b 1858
Thank you all for looking,
My asking for help if possible please is on the above of HENRY SADLER b 1836 & ELLEN SADLER b 1843. They just seem to disappear after their last census entries's. Have not been able to find marriage certificate or a death certificate for either. JANE SADLER b 1858 seems to be the last surviving member of the family and dies in 1926. Any help appreciated, thank you all,
Regards JUST J
Many, Many thanks everyone,
Apologies for not answering to you all sooner. Hindering me has been my post stroke / neuropathic pain condition. Again you wonderful people you have come up brilliantly. The ELLEN SADLER b 1843 ,father JOSEPH SADLER, Carpenter. A marriage certificate of CHARLOTTE SADLER / ALBERT WENTZELL. Father of CHARLOTTE's occupation is Carpenter.
ELLEN marries RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON 1867.
1871 Census, they have son WILLIAM CHARLES b.1868 age 2.
RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON dies 1874. Aged 33. On marrying RICHARD they live in Greenwich area.
I assume?? ELLEN DORRINGTON (SADLER) remarries??. JACOB (ROWAN ?/ ROMAN?) SPINK. 1879 . We have also WILLIAM JACOB SPINK b 1882 ??
There is another marriage for JACOB in 1896 but have found no d.c on ELLEN ?. Have been looking also for what happened to WILLIAM CHARLES (DORRINGTON) b 1868, again he just seems to disappear after the 1871 Census.
Any help connecting these greatly appreciated.
Many thanks again, all of you,
Best REGARDS, JUST J
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ELLEN marries RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON 1867.
1871 Census, they have son WILLIAM CHARLES b.1868 age 2.
RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON dies 1874. Aged 33.
Have been looking also for what happened to WILLIAM CHARLES (DORRINGTON) b 1868, again he just seems to disappear after the 1871 Census.
He married Florence Marcott 19 Jan 1893 St Paul, Greenwich
Father Richard dec’d both father & son occ. are publicans
Her father Charles
1901 RG13; Piece: 537; Folio: 33; Page: 58
William C Dorrington 30 Greenwich Kent Beer Retailer
Florence 33 Vauxhall
William R 6
Percy E 5 Greenwich
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Percy Ernest Dorrington Born Jan 31 '96
baptism 4 Mar 1896 Greenwich St Alphege, Greenwich, England
Father: William Charles Dorrington licensed victualler
Mother: Florence , abode 52 Royal Hill
Percy Ernest Dorrington, Electrician
Enlistment Age: 19
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 72 Clde Sport??
Regimental Number: 32171
Number of Images: 22
Form Title: Attestation
William Charles Dorrington Father next of Kin address Sportsmans Hotel Seasalter Kent Whitstable
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ELLEN marries RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON 1867
I assume?? ELLEN DORRINGTON (SADLER) remarries??. JACOB (ROWAN ?/ ROMAN?) SPINK. 1879 .
Ellen Sadler's husband Richard Dorrington doesn't have a middle name on marriage cert.
his death
Richard Best Dorrington late of 6 Royal Hill Greenwich
Death Date: 12 Mar 1874
Probate Date: 9 Jul 1874 widow Ellen
1861 RG 9; Piece: 399; Folio: 121; Page: 3
13 Royal Hill Greenwich
Richard B Dorrington age 21 father William beer retailer
mother Ann sisters Elizabeth & Annie
11 Sep 1867 St George the Martyr, Southwark
Ellen SADLER father Joseph SADLER carpenter marries
Richard Dorrington publican father Richard William Dorrington publican
25 Dec 1879 St Nicholas, Deptford, Greenwich, England
Ellen Dorrington 28 widow her father named as
John WHITE Pensioned Police Officer
married Jacob Roman Spink his father William
We have also WILLIAM JACOB SPINK b 1882 ??
there's this birth entry on GRO indexes mmn PALMER
SPINK, WILLIAM JACOB
1882 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1039
he appears to have died age 2
William Jacob Spink
1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Greenwich
Volume: 1d Page: 612
his burial date
29 November 1884
location Greenwich
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Found Ellen Dorrington and son on 1881 and 1891 census
1881c RG11; Piece: 721; Folio: 22; Page: 3;
6 Royal Hill Greenwich
Ellen Donington widow 34 Lambeth, beer seller
William Donington 12 Greenwich
1891c RG12; Piece: 508; Folio: 119; Page: 10
52 Royal Hill Greenwich
Ellen Dorrington widow 59 unknown, Beer keeper
Charles 22 Greenwich, assistant
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she appears to have gained some years between censuses 1881 -1891 ???
Her possible death entry
Mar 1899 St. Geo. East 1c 279
Dorrington Ellen age 67
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ELLEN marries RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON 1867.
1871 Census, they have son WILLIAM CHARLES b.1868 age 2.
RICHARD BEST DORRINGTON dies 1874. Aged 33.
Have been looking also for what happened to WILLIAM CHARLES (DORRINGTON) b 1868, again he just seems to disappear after the 1871 Census.
He married Florence Marcott 19 Jan 1893 St Paul, Greenwich
Father Richard dec’d both father & son occ. are publicans
Her father Charles
1901 RG13; Piece: 537; Folio: 33; Page: 58
William C Dorrington 30 Greenwich Kent Beer Retailer
Florence 33 Vauxhall
William R 6
Percy E 5 Greenwich
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Percy Ernest Dorrington Born Jan 31 '96
baptism 4 Mar 1896 Greenwich St Alphege, Greenwich, England
Father: William Charles Dorrington licensed victualler
Mother: Florence , abode 52 Royal Hill
Percy Ernest Dorrington, Electrician
Enlistment Age: 19
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 72 Clde Sport??
Regimental Number: 32171
Number of Images: 22
Form Title: Attestation
William Charles Dorrington Father next of Kin address Sportsmans Hotel Seasalter Kent Whitstable
Thanks Ladyhawke,
Most appreciate the info, and putting me in the right direction.
Regards JUST J
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Thanks Ladyhawk,
Most appreciate the info, and putting me in the right direction.
You are very welcome :)
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Ladyhawk,
amondg is right about the Henry that marries Mary Ann AUSTIN.
I can see the image at Ancestry "London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931", Henry's father is Thomas AUSTIN, bricklayer.
Daisy - Did you mix up surname?
Thank you for pointing out my mistake :-[ :)
So we still don't know what happened to Henry, son of Joseph?
Daisy
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Thanks Ladyhawk,
Most appreciate the info, and putting me in the right direction.
You are very welcome :)
Thank you peep' s for looking,
Can anyone provide more info on the marriage of the ELLEN DORRINGTON, who she marries, age perhaps , abode ???. JUN Qtr. 1893 Vol 1d Page 1566 GREENWICH. Marry's one of the following JAMES PARKER, ARTHUR CHARLES OAKESHOTT, JAMES SPOONER. Many thanks all, JUST J.
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Can anyone provide more info on the marriage of the ELLEN DORRINGTON, who she marries, age perhaps , abode ???. JUN Qtr. 1893 Vol 1d Page 1566 GREENWICH.
Marry's one of the following
JAMES PARKER, ARTHUR CHARLES OAKESHOTT, JAMES SPOONER.
She married James BAKER 44, single railway guard father Charles Retired Police Sgt.
on 16th April 1893 at St Paul’s Greenwich
Ellen DORRINGTON age 44 widow, 52 Royal Hill Greenwich
father James SADLER dec’d carpenter
One witness was Florence Dorrington
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Hi LadyH,
Many thanks for your assistance, her age is slightly altered, but that has always been a woman's prerogative. Never discuss / challenge their age. Her father, I have it as JOSEPH not JAMES SADLER. Many thanks again LadyH
Regards JUST J