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Hi
My ancestor Mary Balls was born in Stansfield in 1769 dr of John Balls and Margaret, whose wedding I dont seem able to find. Any help would be much appreciated.Many thanks
David
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Hi,
A possible marriage about 2 miles away from Stansfield, Suffolk,
St Mary, Hawkedon, Suffolk
13 Feb 1759
John BALLS
Margaret DUTTON
There is a birth of,
Margaret DULLON
Baptism Place: Hawkedon, Suffolk
Baptism Date: 09 Feb 1734
Parents: Thomas & Margaret
Both of these are transcriptions and I can't see an image to see which surname is correct. They could be different people but it seems a big coincidence.
There is also this possible birth for a Margaret DUTTON,
Margret DUTTON
Stanstead, Suffolk
Baptism date: 20 Dec 1736
Parents: John & Barbara
Regards,
Daisy
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Can't find a marriage for John and Margaret yet but found 2 other children...
Sarah Balls. baptised 15 Apr 1770, Stansfield, Suffolk.
Margaret Balls. baptised 21 Jul 1766, Stansfield, Suffolk.
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Hi Daisy and Solidrock
Many thanks for that very useful information>my only concer about the marriage of John and Margaret is that there is 7 years between their marriage in Hawkedon and the birth of thei first child in Stansfield, I wonder if there is any sign of children being born in that parish betwen 1759 and 1766.
Also regarding the Margaret DULLON and Margaret DUTTON, is there any sign of a marriage in Hawkedon or any other births that might indicate a mistake in transcription.
Kidn Regards
David :D :D
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Hi David,
I can't find any earlier births before 1766 so I assume they married around that time. Found another child that died in 1772..
Philemon Balls. burial 01 Jan 1772, Stansfield, Suffolk. father John, mother Margaret.
Can't find his birth yet.
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Hi Solidrock
There is another tree on Ancestry that shows 2 children born 1762 and 1764, but I cannot access to see their names or place of birth, si o it is definitely the riht couple.
Kind Regard
David
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Hi Solidrock and daisy
Please see screenshot from family tree on Ancestry, they dont give his birth but do his parents, I dont know wher they got the batism from as there is no Souce Citations, but the parents might give a clue as to where he wass born John Balls and Susanna Flack
Birth
1738
1738
(AGE)
Baptism
15 Feb 1738 • Great Bradley, Suffolk, England
1 Source
1738
0
Birth of Sister Susanna Balls(1742–)
1742 • Great Bradley, Suffolk, England
1742
4
Birth of Brother Simon Balls(1744–)
1744 • Great Bradley, Suffolk, England
1744
5
Death of Mother Susanna Flack(–1746)
May 1746 • Great Bradley, Suffolk, England
1746
8
Marriage
1759 • Hawkedon, Suffolk, England
Margaret Dutton (1739–)
1759
21
Birth of Son John Balls(1762–)
1 Aug 1762 • Stansfield, Suffolk
1762
24
Birth of Son James Balls(1764–)
1764 • Stansfield, Suffolk
1764
25
Birth of Daughter Margaret Balls(1766–1805)
1766 • STANSFIELD, SUFFOLK
1766
28
Birth of Daughter Sarah Balls(1770–)
1770 • Stansfield Suffolk
1770
32
Death of Daughter Margaret Balls(1766–1805)
abt 1805
1805
67
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John Balls
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I have'nt got an Ancestry sub either
There is..
James Balls. baptised 11 Mar 1764, Sudbury, Suffolk. father John, mother Margaret
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John Balls. Burial 14 Jul 1772, Stansfield Parish, Suffolk. father John, mother Margaret.
The James is the one I gave you born in Sudbury.
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John Balls. baptised 15 Feb 1738, Great Bradley, Suffolk. father John, mother Susan.
John Balls. m Margaret Dutton. 13 Feb 1759, Suffolk, England.
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Hi Solidrock
Thats perfect s I have found a wedding of John Balls and Susan Flack 3/8/1738 at Carlton cum willingham that is very close to Great Bradley.
Kind Regards
David :D :D
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From Suffolk Baptism Index on FindMyPast:
Ann Balls bp.28/12/1760 Stansfield, dau. of John and Margaret.
Annette
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Hi Annette
many thanks for that
Kind Regards
David
:D
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Another one: Philip bp.6/11/1773 Stansfield
Annette
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Hi Annette
Tet are coming fast and furious thank, could uou kidly check for me and see if ther is a birt of another of my family Sarah Moltin in Sansfield c1775.
Kind Regards
David
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Moltin? This doesn't seem to be a valid surname as far as I can see - no baptisms in Suffolk at all for this name, nor can I see any Sarah Moltin marrying in Suffolk??
Annette
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Hi Annette
Sorry should have been Molton although the leter version of the name is Moulton. There is a christening on an Ancestry Tree showing Sarah Chistened at Stansfield in 1575.
Many thanks
David
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Assuming you mean 1775 which is what you initially said. No Sarah Molton/Moulton baptised in Stansfield.
Annette
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Hi Annette
It should have been 1175 but I am sure that you lookd for a few years either side.
Many thanks
David
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This maybe it..
Sarah Moulton. baptised 13 Oct 1775, St Peter, Sudbury, Suffolk. father John, mother Mary.
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Hi Solidrock
Thats perfect it is close to where she married and the date is right.
Many thanks
David :D :D
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This maybe it..
Sarah Moulton. baptised 13 Oct 1775, St Peter, Sudbury, Suffolk. father John, mother Mary.
Possible sibling for Sarah...
Mary Moulton. baptised 23 Jul 1769, Sudbury-St Peter, Suffolk. father John, mother Mary.
Possible marriage for John and Mary...
John Moulton. m Mary Sheldrake. 07 Aug 1768, Suffolk.
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Hi Solidrock
Thanks for that, the Sarah you mentioned baptised in 1775 died 2 years later, but John an Mary had another daughter that year who they also named Sarah who must be my one. I have seen the wedding on John Moutlon and Mary Sheldrake, which would be just right, but I need to find the parish they married in. I am thinking about contacting the Suffolk FHS and asking for their advice on that entry.
Kind Regards
David :D
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Hi,
Does this help?
Suffolk Marriage Index Transcription
Marriage date: 07 Aug 1768
Marriage place: Sudbury St Peter, Suffolk
Mary SHELDRAKE
John MOULTON
Regarding this Margaret I found earlier, I can't see any other DULLONs in the area so I think she is a DUTTON,
Margaret DULLON
Baptism Place: Hawkedon, Suffolk
Baptism Date: 09 Feb 1734
Parents: Thomas & Margaret
So I wonder which Margaret married John BALLS?
Have you seen this?
https://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/collections/getrecord/GB174_FL625_7_3_1_1
I'm not a member so I don't know if it has any further info.
I found this DUTTON marriage,
Sarah DUTTON
St Mary, Hawkedon
25 Oct 1763
Spouse: Thomas WORLIDGE
Spouse parish: Stansfield, Suffolk
I wonder if it is connected?
Daisy