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I am lost I have the wedding cert for Annie Roberts and Archie Proverbs. Annie is 22 no occupation and residence is Abbotsford Latchford. Her father is David a joiner. The church was St Baranabas Warrington. I can find the birth of Annie and cannot find where Abbotsford Latchford is.. I am stuck any comments and help appreciated. Could not find in any census either..
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Well there is a Latchford approximately one and a half mile South South East of Warrington according to google maps.
Was Annie a servant working and living at a house with the name Ashford? Corrected to Abbotsford
Added: Looking at their marriage entry on FreeBMD Dec 1/4 1912 Latchford is in the registration district of Warrington.
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100% abbotsford (top line) Latchford (second line)
Could not find in any census either
Thanks
Nigel
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100% abbotsford (top line) Latchford (second line)
Could not find in any census either
Thanks
Nigel
Senior moment :-[ Corrected to Abbotsford in my original post
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Hi
What is the birth date you have for Annie
Marj
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Hi 19 March 1890 according to the 1939 Census.
Thanks
Nigel
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Hi Nigel a possibility
1901 census
David Roberts Head M 52 Joiner Bryncroes, Carnarvonshire
Mary Roberts Wife F 46 Anglesey
Thomas Roberts Son M 18 Llandwrog, Carnarvonshire
David J Roberts Son M 15 Llandwrog, Carnarvonshire
Annie Roberts Daughter F 13 Llandwrog, Carnarvonshire
William Ed Roberts Son M 10 Llandwrog, Carnarvonshire
Robert Ed Roberts Son M 8 Llandwrog,
Marj
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Hi, another possible in 1901 in Conway is:
Dd Roberts Head Male 46 Rhuddlan, Flintshire Wheelwright
Grace Roberts Wife Female 48 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ellen J Roberts Daughter Female 20 Liverpool
Wm O Roberts Son Male 15 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ann Roberts Daughter Female 10 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Mary Roberts Daughter Female 8 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ed Chas Roberts Son Male 6 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Beatrice Roberts Daughter Female 3 Conway, Carnarvonshire
An Annie Roberts age 20, born Conway is working as a servant in Walton, Cheshire in 1911.
Walton is a village and civil parish in Warrington, Cheshire, England.
Ray
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Hi, another possible in 1901 in Conway is:
Dd Roberts Head Male 46 Rhuddlan, Flintshire Wheelwright
Grace Roberts Wife Female 48 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ellen J Roberts Daughter Female 20 Liverpool
Wm O Roberts Son Male 15 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ann Roberts Daughter Female 10 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Mary Roberts Daughter Female 8 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Ed Chas Roberts Son Male 6 Conway, Carnarvonshire
Beatrice Roberts Daughter Female 3 Conway, Carnarvonshire
An Annie Roberts age 20, born Conway is working as a servant in Walton, Cheshire in 1911.
Walton is a village and civil parish in Warrington, Cheshire, England.
Ray
Looks a very good possible if naming patterns are followed. Archie's parents are William & Alice. Annie's if correct are David & Grace. Firstborn son and daughter of couple are William David and Grace Alice going by FreeBMD & GRO there are also others named for both sides siblings.
Cas
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Thank you everyone - this is the puzzle
At the wedding Proverbs signed the marriage certificate as witnesses perhaps David her father did not come from Wales for the wedding. That is a positive I guess.
Now on the wedding certificate David's occupation is Joiner so that would tie in with David/Mary but Annie's age would be wrong, but the name is spelt correctly Annie.
David and Grace has more of a Warrington feel but father a wheelwright (not a joiner), and name Ann not Annie. The age is more correct, and I guess a wheelwright is working with wood. The naming convention mentioned is very positive. If I was assuming this one would seem very interesting. And the fact you kindly found Ann Roberts close to Warrington in 1911 and only 3 miles from her known residence at her wedding in 1912.
The other positive the person I am working with was lots of Roberts DNA matches with Roberts families from Wales. Thanks for the ideas something for us to work on.
The mystery continues...
Thanks
Nigel
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Even more exciting proof looked at David and Grace in 1911 and they made a right mess of their census even listing the dead children. David was a wheelwright in a quarry and his son was a joiner. On the census Ann is now Annie and listed as a "general servant" . This is great we now have an Annie as a servant . They listed all their children ( some crossed out dead ) so not worried that Annie is listed with being back home in 1911 and in Walton as a servant.
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This could be her birth registration.
Births Jun 1890
Roberts Ann Conway 11b 480 mmn Jones
Marj