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John Wayman was born in Greenwich in 1814, parents given on his death certificate in 1881 as William Wayman, a signalman in the Royal Navy and Ann Craig. Ann, I believe was born in 1765 in Neilston, Renfrew. William and Ann were married in Greenock in 1797 with their early family, William (1800) and Mary (!804) born in Greenock. A later sibling Robert was also born back in Greenock, making it seem likely that William (father) was in the Navy for a time. Family notes recall William as operating a sloop carrying provisions in the Firth of Forth area, so again a sea faring link. A William Weyman is listed on the forces records website as serving on the HMS Cornwallis in 1810, however the Cornwallis served in the Far East and only returned to the UK in 1814. This casts doubt on the John birth date of Feb 1814.
Question, does anyone else have any connections to this family? I have been unable to find a likely birth for William the older in either the IGI files or the Scottish records.
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Doing the sums, it makes Ann Craig 49 at 1814, and even older when the later (Robert) was born in Greenock?
It doesn't quite ring true.
What records/locations do you have for John Wayman prior to his death?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQLQ-77S (1814 baptism at St Alphage)
Mary Ann https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYFR-PVJ (1815 Baptism @ St Alpahge)
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according to parish registers John was b January 1814 and baptised February
Parish register image
Baptism St Alphege Greenwich England
John Weyman son of William & Ann Weyman
born 16 January 1814
home address Bells St
Father's occupation Mariner
Baptised 6 Feb 1814 officiating minister Thos Waite
Suz
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Thanks for the rapid response Pauline.
John shows in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 census as an upholsterer working in Glasgow. The 1881 census gives his birthplace as Greenwich, the other census gives it as England. He married Jane McLauchlan in London in 1836 and their early family were born in London including my great great grandmother Jane. They moved to Scotland sometime between 1842 and 1846. No idea why he and Jane were in London, she was born in Argyllshire.
John's death certificate gives his parents details so most probably I have the birth of Ann Craig wrong.
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Just trying to see who they are with in 1841 London.
1836 marriage @ Paddington https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NV6H-6LS
early 1841 baptism of Jane (so should be on 1841 census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYBM-R4T
WAYMAN, ANN MCLACHLEN 1839 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01 Page 129
WAYMAN, JOHN MCLACHLAN 1842 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 279
WAYMAN, ROBERT MCLACHLAN 1842 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 279
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1851 gives 3 boys together in scotland but no parents
John T Wayman twin son 8 scholar b England
Robert E Wayman twin son 8 scholar
Henry Wayman 5 Edinburgh
Suz
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William and Ann are living in Greenock in 1841 - he is shown as b.1765 England, and Ann as b.1772 Renfrewshire.
In 1851 Ann still there, now a widow, and shown b.1772 Greenock, Renfrewshire.
She died 7th (I think, hard to read) January 1856 Greenock - informant was son John Wayman - and her parents are given as John Craig and Mary Campbell.
So, William bc.1765 in England and Ann ca.1772 Greenock (I note when married her name given as Agnes).
Annette
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A dau. Mary Ann Wayman also baptised in Greenwich on 26/11/1815 (perhaps the earlier Mary died).
Annette
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Annette, That's great many thanks. I had been looking on ScotlandsPeople for the 1841 details with no success but have now found it - even the phonetic name option failed to pick up Wllm Weyman!
Very many thanks
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An update on my search for William Wayman (Weyman).
William Weyman is recorded on HMS Cornwallis in 1810. His naval will at the time mentions his wife, Ann, residing in Greenock so likely to be the correct couple. The Cornwallis changed its name to Akbar in 1811 and returned to Woolwich in 1812/13, so John Wayman's birth in Jan 1814 in Greenwich seems plausible.
William and Ann are recorded in Greenock in the 1841 census, William aged 76, occupation Merchant Seaman, and Ann 69.
This raises the question as to why he joined the Navy when he was around 45, was he 'pressed' or did he volunteer. Was the merchant trade so badly affected by the Napolionic wars?
When they married in 1797 he is referred to as a Merchant Seaman so presumably was operating out of Greenock.
Does anyone have experience in tracking down Merchant seaman on muster records, the National Archives collection is sparse around this date?
I have so far failed to locate a plausible birth for William around 1765, the census only gives the location as England.