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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: pathar505 on Sunday 28 January 18 14:27 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Is there anyone in the Westhoughton area who could look for a marriage between John Snape and a Sarah? This lady was born in Westhoughton in about 1785, according to the census.
They had a son, Joseph who was born in 1818, so I assume they married a few years before that, especially if he wasn't their first born.
Any information will be much appreciated.
Pat
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Where was John born and where was Joseph born?
Have you checked Free Reg, Family Search and Lancashire OPC?
www.lan-opc.org.uk
https://familysearch.org/search
www.freereg.org.uk/search/index.shtml
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Is this Joseph's marriage
4 Nov 1844 St Mary the Virgin, Deane
Joseph Snape Miner, abode Horwich
Rachel Nutt abode Horwich
Groom's Father: John Snape, Quaryman
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Yes Rosie, I have the marriage certificate. It states that Rachel is illegitimate and so far, I have not traced her birth. On the census returns her place of birth is written as Waverham, but I believe that it was spelled as it was pronounced locally and should be Weaverham.
Regards
Pat
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Thank you Carol W for your reply
I have already checked familysearch.org and cannot find anything to suggest John's wife, Sarah but I will check the other websites you suggested.
Regards
Pat
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Hello
On 1841 census Rachel Nut is living at Lostock,Horwich in the household of Titus Barlow, there are Snapes on same page .John and Sarah with children Joseph,James and John jnr are living at Greenwood Horwich. john dies between 41 and 51 census so don't know his birthplace but i would presume Horwich.Sarah dies 1866 in Wigan.
The Snape family are still in Horwich today.
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Thank you for your reply, hol. Yes, I have found that information on the 1841 and have all the later information. However, I am still looking for the surname of Sarah, wife of John Snape.
Pat
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Do you have the baptisms of their children :-\
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I have the year of birth of three sons , Joseph 1818, James 1824 and John 1826. I don't know if there were others. My search for the marriage of their parents and particularly their mother's maiden name eludes me. She was Sarah and born 1785 probably in the Westhoughton area according to the census. I have searched all the usual sights. I found a Sarah, Christened 1786 in West Houghton, daughter of Adam and Alice Brown and she is most likely to be the one, but until I find her marriage to John Snape, I can't be sure.
I am just about to go through familysearch again in case I missed it.
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I had wondered whether the childrens baptisms would give a clue as to which parish we would find the marriage.
Marriages for the period you are after are not transcribed onto lancashireopc for Westhoughton
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Westhoughton/index.html
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Hello
I found a marriage between a Sarah Brown and a John Snape on lancs opc. at Ainsworth but this was in 1821 after Joseph would have been born.
Lee
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Yes, I think the Ainsworth marriage is the right one. If they were not married when their son was born, I hope I eventually get to see the original record of John's baptism where the minister might have made a note in the margin.
Many thanks for your help
Pat
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It is possible that Joseph was a child of just one of them to a previous relationship. :-\
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Yes, I think the Ainsworth marriage is the right one. If they were not married when their son was born, I hope I eventually get to see the original record of John's baptism where the minister might have made a note in the margin.
Many thanks for your help
Pat
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That Ainsworth marriage could equally be this family :-\
1841 - Oldham cum Prestwich
HO107/548 bk6 f17 p27
John Snape 40
Sarah 40
Leah 18
George 14
Rachel 10
Mary 5
John 11 months
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1821 St Marys Oldham
john Snape joiner and Sarah Mills both from Prestwich .think that the above couple.
Leah Snape b21 july 1822 father john snape joiner.
Lee
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That is good because at least it eliminates them ;D
I was more concerned that in the absence of Westhoughton registers for the period online the Ainsworth marriage was being accepted without Westhoughton registers being checked. ??? We all know how easy it is to follow the wrong family :)
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I am still having reservations about Ainsworth although Sarah Browns brother Adam is living in Harwood by 1841 with second wife Ann. They married in Bolton.
Sarahs sister Catherine marries a John Dean at Horwich 1838 and is living there in 1841 with family and mother Alice . Sarah Browns parents Adam and Alice are both buried at Parish Church Horwich.
Lee